Visible blood vessels in tail

David L. Burkhead · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 26

When I got home from my recent business trip (1 week in Japan) and had the
energy to look at the fish in detail I noticed that Hoshi has a couple of
visible blood vessels in his caudal fin.

Hoshi is a sarasa comet, about 5" long, all white except for an orange spot
on his forehead. His activity and appetite seem to be good. I tested the
water: pH 8, Ammonia 0 ppm, Nitrite 0 ppm, Nitrate 20 ppm.

Normal or cause for concern?

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David L. Burkhead · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 26

No, I'm not sure. They could have always been there.

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"Mel" wrote in message$lV4.29064@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Are you sure they haven't always been there? If you look closely at white
> fish you can often see thin red veins in their caudal fin. I have a white
> oranda and she has visible red veins in hers and is completely healthy and
> happy. I think it's just because the fin is more transparent than fins of
> another colour and you can see the veins more clearly. As long as your
water
> parameters are ok and stay that way then I wouldn't worry too much unless
it
> becomes worse, or if you know for sure that they weren't visible before
you
> went away.
> Mel.
>
>
>
>
>
> "David L. Burkhead" wrote in message
> @giganews.com...
> > When I got home from my recent business trip (1 week in Japan) and had
the
> > energy to look at the fish in detail I noticed that Hoshi has a couple
of
> > visible blood vessels in his caudal fin.
> >
> > Hoshi is a sarasa comet, about 5" long, all white except for an orange
> > spot
> > on his forehead. His activity and appetite seem to be good. I tested
the
> > water: pH 8, Ammonia 0 ppm, Nitrite 0 ppm, Nitrate 20 ppm.
> >
> > Normal or cause for concern?
> >
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> > David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
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Mel · Joined: 27 Sep 2007 Posts: 15

Are you sure they haven't always been there? If you look closely at white
fish you can often see thin red veins in their caudal fin. I have a white
oranda and she has visible red veins in hers and is completely healthy and
happy. I think it's just because the fin is more transparent than fins of
another colour and you can see the veins more clearly. As long as your water
parameters are ok and stay that way then I wouldn't worry too much unless it
becomes worse, or if you know for sure that they weren't visible before you
went away.
Mel.

"David L. Burkhead" wrote in message @giganews.com...
> When I got home from my recent business trip (1 week in Japan) and had the
> energy to look at the fish in detail I noticed that Hoshi has a couple of
> visible blood vessels in his caudal fin.
>
> Hoshi is a sarasa comet, about 5" long, all white except for an orange
> spot
> on his forehead. His activity and appetite seem to be good. I tested the
> water: pH 8, Ammonia 0 ppm, Nitrite 0 ppm, Nitrate 20 ppm.
>
> Normal or cause for concern?
>
> --
> David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
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Tynk · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 150

On Oct 26, 3:37?pm, "David L. Burkhead" wrote:
> No, I'm not sure. They could have always been there.
>
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> "Mel" wrote in message
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>
>
> > Are you sure they haven't always been there? If you look closely at white
> > fish you can often see thin red veins in their caudal fin. I have a white
> > oranda and she has visible red veins in hers and is completely healthy and
> > happy. I think it's just because the fin is more transparent than fins of
> > another colour and you can see the veins more clearly. As long as your
> water
> > parameters are ok and stay that way then I wouldn't worry too much unless
> it
> > becomes worse, or if you know for sure that they weren't visible before
> you
> > went away.
> > Mel.
>
> > "David L. Burkhead" wrote in message
> >@giganews.com...
> > > When I got home from my recent business trip (1 week in Japan) and had
> the
> > > energy to look at the fish in detail I noticed that Hoshi has a couple
> of
> > > visible blood vessels in his caudal fin.
>
> > > Hoshi is a sarasa comet, about 5" long, all white except for an orange
> > > spot
> > > on his forehead. His activity and appetite seem to be good. I tested
> the
> > > water: pH 8, Ammonia 0 ppm, Nitrite 0 ppm, Nitrate 20 ppm.
>
> > > Normal or cause for concern?
>
> > > --
> > > David L. Burkhead "Dum Vivimus Vivamus"
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Do the blood vessels look inflamed or is it just that you can see them
through the fins?

David L. Burkhead · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 26

Tynk wrote:

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> Do the blood vessels look inflamed or is it just that you can see them
> through the fins?

I'm not sure what inflamed would look like.

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David L. Burkhead · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 26

Tynk wrote:

> Do the blood vessels look inflamed or is it just that you can see them
> through the fins?

Pictures can be found here:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g206/dburkhead/visibleveinsintaila.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g206/dburkhead/visibleveinsintail.jpg

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Tynk · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 150

On Oct 27, 4:21?pm, "David L. Burkhead" wrote:
> Tynk wrote:
> > Do the blood vessels look inflamed or is it just that you can see them
> > through the fins?
>
> Pictures can be found here:http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g206/dburkhead/visibleveinsintaila.jpghttp://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g206/dburkhead/visibleveinsintail.jpg
>
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Thanks for posting the pics, David. You're a peach. = )

Tynk · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 150

On Oct 27, 4:21?pm, "David L. Burkhead" wrote:
> Tynk wrote:
> > Do the blood vessels look inflamed or is it just that you can see them
> > through the fins?
>
> Pictures can be found here:http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g206/dburkhead/visibleveinsintaila.jpghttp://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g206/dburkhead/visibleveinsintail.jpg
>
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Ok,
Those look like normal blood vessels to me.
I've had many fish with clear and white or translucent fins and you
can see their blood vessels clearly.
It's time to be alarmed when an entire area or section becomes
inflamed and they all fill with extra blood. This looks more like a
bloody patch from a side view, but your fish looks completely normal
to me. Notice the top and bottom vessels are symetrical. Those vessels
are a little larger than the others, so you would naturally see more
red from the added blood running through.
I had a male Betta with clear fins once. When I would do a water
change on his tank, he'd get a bit stressed and you could see how red
his fins got from the high blood pressure. = o (poor guy did not like
water changes.) When he settled down, his fins lost the red road map
look and were back to clear.

David L. Burkhead · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 26

Thanks. This is pretty much the consensus from the various places I've
asked but I just wanted to check.

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