Reef Tank

Richard Reynolds · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 268

one could seperate them like

FO a tank generally lacking in live rock usually with fish sometimes inverts generally no
corals
FOWLR a tank with live rock usually with fish sometimes inverts generally no corals
reef tank a tank with live rock sometimes fish, generally inverts and corals

but "a good place to build a reef." is a good description also Smile

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Richard Reynolds
Richard.Reynolds@usa.net

"Dragon Slayer" wrote in message$frb9$1@news3.infoave.net...
>
>
> > What makes a reef tank a reef tank? Is it the live rocks?
>
> its all the same things that are included on a reef in the ocean. the
> corals, rocks, inverts, fish, etc..etc..etc
>
> > What do you call a saltwater tank with no live rocks. An open ocean
> tank? Smile

>
>
> a good place to build a reef.
>
>
> kc
>
>

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Dragon Slayer · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 440

> What makes a reef tank a reef tank? Is it the live rocks?

its all the same things that are included on a reef in the ocean. the
corals, rocks, inverts, fish, etc..etc..etc

> What do you call a saltwater tank with no live rocks. An open ocean
tank? Smile

a good place to build a reef.

kc

Terry McPherson · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

What makes a reef tank a reef tank? Is it the live rocks?

What do you call a saltwater tank with no live rocks. An open ocean tank? Smile

Acrylics · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 30

>What makes a reef tank a reef tank?

Terry,
We had a short discussion on this a little while back and I think the consensus
is that it's a reef when Marc says so Smile

; well there's a *little* more to it
than that...

Here's the URL:

http://www.google.com/groups?q=group:rec.aquaria.marine.reefs+insubject:cl
arifying+insubject:question&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&scoring=r&selm=oDBaa.10347%
24wJ1.977079%40newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net&rnum=8&filter=0

Click on "complete thread"
Perhaps some others can add to it or come up with something better.

HTH,
James

Marc Levenson · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 667

James, that is sooo funny. I was going to tell him what I told Bob not too long
ago:

"It is a reef when you say it is!"

Marc

Acrylics wrote:

> >What makes a reef tank a reef tank?
>
> Terry,
> We had a short discussion on this a little while back and I think the consensus
> is that it's a reef when Marc says so Smile

; well there's a *little* more to it
> than that...
>
> Here's the URL:
>
> http://www.google.com/groups?q=group:rec.aquaria.marine.reefs+insubject:cl
> arifying+insubject:question&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&scoring=r&selm=oDBaa.10347%
> 24wJ1.977079%40newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net&rnum=8&filter=0
>
> Click on "complete thread"
> Perhaps some others can add to it or come up with something better.
>
> HTH,
> James

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Mooboy · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 11

The filtration would depend on who's opinon you are talk ing to.I have a 100
gal truvu and use a marineland 400,prizm deluxe skimmer with surface skim
and plumbed into the side of my tank(i DIDNT use filtration in a sump
because i have had tank dumpage when using undersump filtration)I have an
OASSE 1600gph pump that is closed loop and just circulates.I have 260 watts
of 50/50 powercompact and 500 watts metal halide.The compacts are on during
the day and halides on when i get home.My pump plumbing is reversed so the
flow of water goes across the surface,so i get that nice flickering of light
from the top of the water.I do also have all of my media baskets full of
charcaol stratta

Mooboy · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 11

SOrry Forgot,i have 160 lbs of live sand and 150 lbs of live rock also

Pszemol · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 643

"Cam" wrote in message $ck9$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
> So on a reef tank your main filtration would be your liverock, dsb and
> skimmer ? Right? :0
> If you had a non reef tank is the DSB your main filtration?

Saltwater FO tank is very similar in terms of filtration to a freshwater tank.
You use mineralisation of organic waste to nitrates with bacteria in your bio-filter.

> You reefers are crazy, been drinking too much of that RO water.

RO water is for newbies... Advanced reefers drink only brine Wink

Cam · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 8

LOL...You guys are such smart asses Smile

But seriously, I'm a freshwater d00d myself but am thinking of going into
reefing sometime soon Smile

So on a reef tank your main filtration would be your liverock, dsb and
skimmer ? Right? :0
If you had a non reef tank is the DSB your main filtration?

I think personally I would go for a reef, loads of little critters popping
out of the rockwork, I hear stories of the strange creatures that hitchhiked
into some of your tanks and find it most amusing :0

Hey I also wanna come here and ask you pro's to id my anemones and stuff,
hey I have a glowing flourescent green thing that only comes out at night,
what the hell is it? ROFLMAO
You reefers are crazy, been drinking too much of that RO water.

later
Cam

"Marc Levenson" wrote in message@swbell.net...
> James, that is sooo funny. I was going to tell him what I told Bob not
too long
> ago:
>
> "It is a reef when you say it is!"
>
> Marc
>
>
> Acrylics wrote:
>
> > >What makes a reef tank a reef tank?
> >
> > Terry,
> > We had a short discussion on this a little while back and I think the
consensus
> > is that it's a reef when Marc says so Smile

; well there's a *little* more
to it
> > than that...
> >
> > Here's the URL:
> >
> >
http://www.google.com/groups?q=group:rec.aquaria.marine.reefs+insubject:cl
> >
arifying+insubject:question&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&scoring=r&selm=oDBaa.10347%
> > 24wJ1.977079%40newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net&rnum=8&filter=0
> >
> > Click on "complete thread"
> > Perhaps some others can add to it or come up with something better.
> >
> > HTH,
> > James
>
> --
> Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
>
>

CapFusion · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 155

Reef Tank? OK what is reef anyway?

From the following:
Reef Ocean = Seawater (or salt water) + marine critter (fish, crab, invert
...etc [can be combination of all or few]) + LS + LR + DSB
Reef Tank = Seawater (or salt water) + marine critter (fish, crab, invert
...etc [can be combination of all or few]) + LS + LR + DSB and optional (PS)

If your tank have similar description as above, consider your tank a Reef.
Otherwise, you have FO / FOWLR / FOWLS / OLS / OLR ... etc...

Did I cover everything?

CapFusion,...

"Acrylics" wrote in message@mb-m27.aol.com...
> >So on a reef tank your main filtration would be your liverock, dsb and
> >skimmer ? Right? :0
> >If you had a non reef tank is the DSB your main filtration?
> >
>
> IMO, the method of filtration has little to no effect on whether or not
it's a
> "reef" tank, FO, or FOWLR. I've seen "reef" tanks with the DSB/LR,
canister,
> wet/dry, ATS, and combinations of these - all of them still "reef" tanks.
To
> me it's still based on what you give *primary* consideration.
>
> James
>

Teeb · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 37

*whispering vibes* DO IT DO IT DO IT
LOL.. I spent 30+ years with freshwater tanks.. still have many.. just last
fall got into marine when I came across one of those can't pass up deals on
a 55 and stand at a garage sale and took the plunge into salt water. Now
have the 55 going great, thanks to MUCH help from the guys around here, and
a 10 that I have been working on, probably end up using it as a quarantine
tank.
The best advice I can give you from a still semi-newbie point of view is
this.. don't EVER just *do* something then later ask *I did.. whatever..
should I have done that?* If you have even the slightest bit of hesitation
about anything, ASK FIRST. You will most likely get 30 different answers
from 14 different people but there is always some info in there you can use.
It's not a cheap hobby especially if you want to go the full reef tank
route.. but there are ways to make it a little less expensive at times. I
have a few reef inhabitatns just by chance, from live rock and a well
meaning husband who didn't quite *get it*, but so far they are surviving
just fine. The lighting is where you can really rack up the bills if you
want a reef tank.
ok enough of my babbling.. sorry.. I got bored this afternoon.

Teeb *looking around for the court jester....* hmmm.. he must be here
somewhere....

"Cam" wrote in message$ck9$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
> LOL...You guys are such smart asses Smile

>
> But seriously, I'm a freshwater d00d myself but am thinking of going into
> reefing sometime soon Smile

> So on a reef tank your main filtration would be your liverock, dsb and
> skimmer ? Right? :0
> If you had a non reef tank is the DSB your main filtration?
>
> I think personally I would go for a reef, loads of little critters popping
> out of the rockwork, I hear stories of the strange creatures that
hitchhiked
> into some of your tanks and find it most amusing :0
>
> Hey I also wanna come here and ask you pro's to id my anemones and stuff,
> hey I have a glowing flourescent green thing that only comes out at night,
> what the hell is it? ROFLMAO
> You reefers are crazy, been drinking too much of that RO water.
>
> later
> Cam
>
>
>
> "Marc Levenson" wrote in message
> @swbell.net...
> > James, that is sooo funny. I was going to tell him what I told Bob not
> too long
> > ago:
> >
> > "It is a reef when you say it is!"
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > Acrylics wrote:
> >
> > > >What makes a reef tank a reef tank?
> > >
> > > Terry,
> > > We had a short discussion on this a little while back and I think the
> consensus
> > > is that it's a reef when Marc says so Smile

; well there's a *little*
more
> to it
> > > than that...
> > >
> > > Here's the URL:
> > >
> > >
> http://www.google.com/groups?q=group:rec.aquaria.marine.reefs+insubject:cl
> > >
> arifying+insubject:question&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&scoring=r&selm=oDBaa.10347%
> > > 24wJ1.977079%40newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net&rnum=8&filter=0
> > >
> > > Click on "complete thread"
> > > Perhaps some others can add to it or come up with something better.
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > > James
> >
> > --
> > Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> > Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> > Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
> >
> >
>
>

Teeb · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 37

And *PS*.. yes the live rock can sometimes be the most fun part of the whole
tank, lol. After 9 months, I can still sit here staring into my tank
watching things and still find things I never noticed before!

Teeb

"Cam" wrote in message$ck9$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
> LOL...You guys are such smart asses Smile

>
> But seriously, I'm a freshwater d00d myself but am thinking of going into
> reefing sometime soon Smile

> So on a reef tank your main filtration would be your liverock, dsb and
> skimmer ? Right? :0
> If you had a non reef tank is the DSB your main filtration?
>
> I think personally I would go for a reef, loads of little critters popping
> out of the rockwork, I hear stories of the strange creatures that
hitchhiked
> into some of your tanks and find it most amusing :0
>
> Hey I also wanna come here and ask you pro's to id my anemones and stuff,
> hey I have a glowing flourescent green thing that only comes out at night,
> what the hell is it? ROFLMAO
> You reefers are crazy, been drinking too much of that RO water.
>
> later
> Cam
>
>
>
> "Marc Levenson" wrote in message
> @swbell.net...
> > James, that is sooo funny. I was going to tell him what I told Bob not
> too long
> > ago:
> >
> > "It is a reef when you say it is!"
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > Acrylics wrote:
> >
> > > >What makes a reef tank a reef tank?
> > >
> > > Terry,
> > > We had a short discussion on this a little while back and I think the
> consensus
> > > is that it's a reef when Marc says so Smile

; well there's a *little*
more
> to it
> > > than that...
> > >
> > > Here's the URL:
> > >
> > >
> http://www.google.com/groups?q=group:rec.aquaria.marine.reefs+insubject:cl
> > >
> arifying+insubject:question&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&scoring=r&selm=oDBaa.10347%
> > > 24wJ1.977079%40newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net&rnum=8&filter=0
> > >
> > > Click on "complete thread"
> > > Perhaps some others can add to it or come up with something better.
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > > James
> >
> > --
> > Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> > Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> > Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
> >
> >
>
>

Acrylics · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 30

>So on a reef tank your main filtration would be your liverock, dsb and
>skimmer ? Right? :0
>If you had a non reef tank is the DSB your main filtration?
>

IMO, the method of filtration has little to no effect on whether or not it's a
"reef" tank, FO, or FOWLR. I've seen "reef" tanks with the DSB/LR, canister,
wet/dry, ATS, and combinations of these - all of them still "reef" tanks. To
me it's still based on what you give *primary* consideration.

James