Recommendation for chlorine/chloramine remover?

Harry Muscle · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 50

Could someone recommend a good chlorine/chloramine remover to get, that
works good, and is cheap in the long run? I'm thinking I'm gonna stick with
a product that just removes the chlorine/chloramine/ammonia and nothing else
(ie: no slime coat stuff, etc.). Which means I'm trying to choose between
the following: (taken from http://www.thetropicaltank.co.uk/rev-cond.htm)

API Ammo-Lock
Kent Ammonia Detox
Kordon Amquel
Marineland BIO-Safe
Seachem AmGuard

Any of these better than the other? Which one would be best and most
economical (though money is second p , I'd rather go for best)? Any help
in choosing is greatly appreciated. If you know of any other that you
really like, I'm willing to consider them too.

Thanks,
Harry

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Bob Alston · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 20

Find out if your water has chloramine or just plain chlorine. If just plain
old chlorine, then sodium thiosulfate is your cheapest alternative. One
pound, which I bought locally for $8.00, will probably last my lifetime.
See this link for more info on chlorine removers:

http://members.cox.net/tulsaalstons/Aquarium.htm#ChlorineRemoval

--
Bob Alston

bobalston9 AT aol DOT com
"Harry Muscle" wrote in message@corp.newsgroups.com...
> Could someone recommend a good chlorine/chloramine remover to get, that
> works good, and is cheap in the long run? I'm thinking I'm gonna stick
with
> a product that just removes the chlorine/chloramine/ammonia and nothing
else
> (ie: no slime coat stuff, etc.). Which means I'm trying to choose between
> the following: (taken from http://www.thetropicaltank.co.uk/rev-cond.htm)
>
> API Ammo-Lock
> Kent Ammonia Detox
> Kordon Amquel
> Marineland BIO-Safe
> Seachem AmGuard
>
> Any of these better than the other? Which one would be best and most
> economical (though money is second p , I'd rather go for best)? Any
help
> in choosing is greatly appreciated. If you know of any other that you
> really like, I'm willing to consider them too.
>
> Thanks,
> Harry
>
>
>
>
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Harry Muscle · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 50

"Bob Alston" wrote in message$BQ5.41983@fed1read03...
> Find out if your water has chloramine or just plain chlorine. If just
plain
> old chlorine, then sodium thiosulfate is your cheapest alternative. One
> pound, which I bought locally for $8.00, will probably last my lifetime.
> See this link for more info on chlorine removers:
>
> http://members.cox.net/tulsaalstons/Aquarium.htm#ChlorineRemoval
>
> --
> Bob Alston

Actually it can have one or the other. According to my city's web site,
there are two pumps that provide water, one uses only chlorine, the other
chloramines, which one I actually get my water from, I'm not sure, and I'm
guessing it might be dynamic depending on water demands, etc.

So I have to assume the worst and plan for chloramines all the time.

Thanks,
Harry

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Len · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 21

AMQUEL is the best.

Harry Muscle wrote:
> Could someone recommend a good chlorine/chloramine remover to get, that
> works good, and is cheap in the long run? I'm thinking I'm gonna stick with
> a product that just removes the chlorine/chloramine/ammonia and nothing else
> (ie: no slime coat stuff, etc.). Which means I'm trying to choose between
> the following: (taken from http://www.thetropicaltank.co.uk/rev-cond.htm)
>
> API Ammo-Lock
> Kent Ammonia Detox
> Kordon Amquel
> Marineland BIO-Safe
> Seachem AmGuard
>
> Any of these better than the other? Which one would be best and most
> economical (though money is second p , I'd rather go for best)? Any help
> in choosing is greatly appreciated. If you know of any other that you
> really like, I'm willing to consider them too.
>
> Thanks,
> Harry
>
>
>
>
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Chuck Gadd · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 37

On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 14:18:19 -0500, "Harry Muscle"
wrote:

>Could someone recommend a good chlorine/chloramine remover to get, that
>works good, and is cheap in the long run? I'm thinking I'm gonna stick with

I use seachem prime. It deals with Chlorine and Chloramine.

Chuck Gadd
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua

Chuck Gadd · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 37

On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 14:31:06 -0600, "Bob Alston"
wrote:

>Find out if your water has chloramine or just plain chlorine. If just plain
>old chlorine, then sodium thiosulfate is your cheapest alternative. One

More and more water treatment facilities are switching to Chloramine,
so you need to be careful that yours doesn't switch without telling
you.

Additionally, be aware that even if your local water treatment plant
only uses Chlorine, it is possible that trace amounts of ammonia (from
agricultural runoff, etc), could combine with the chlorine and form
chloramine.

Chuck Gadd
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua

LtWolfe · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

I prefer Seachem Prime. It's cheaper that Am-quel, as the dosege (sp?) is less (about 1ml per 10
gallons).
Len wrote in @gwi.net:

> AMQUEL is the best.
>

Harry Muscle · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 50

"LtWolfe" wrote in message@199.45.49.11...
> I prefer Seachem Prime. It's cheaper that Am-quel, as the dosege (sp?) is
less (about 1ml per 10
> gallons).

Thanks, the only thing I don't like about Prime is that it does more than
just remove the chlorine/chloramines ... which isn't always a bad thing, but
I'd rather use just the minimum amount of chemicals needed to get the job
done. Check out the bottom of this site for a better explanation of what I
mean:

http://www.thetropicaltank.co.uk/rev-cond.htm

Thanks,
Harry

TYNK 7 · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 55

(snipped)
>Subject: Re: Recommendation for chlorine/chloramine remover?
>From: Chuck Gadd cgadd@cfxc.com
>Date: 12/30/2003 3:19 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id:
>
>On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 14:31:06 -0600, "Bob Alston"
>wrote:
>
>>Find out if your water has chloramine or just plain chlorine. If just plain
>>old chlorine, then sodium thiosulfate is your cheapest alternative. One
>
>More and more water treatment facilities are switching to Chloramine,
>so you need to be careful that yours doesn't switch without telling
>you.
>

They do this all the time and never tell you.
Mine has told me that they, on occasion, will use Chloramine. That means that I
must use a conditioner that removes both at all times. I prefer Stress Coat,
but you want a less costly product, so I'd check into something like BigAl's,
or thatpetplace's version of it, etc.

LtWolfe · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

Hmmm... I didn't know about that other Seachem Ammonia product. Sounds cheaper than Prime:)
Will have to check it out. Thank _you_. I didn't care for the other things Prime did, either.
"Harry Muscle" wrote in$Vl6.1630631@news20.bellglobal.com:

> "LtWolfe" wrote in message
> @199.45.49.11...
>> I prefer Seachem Prime. It's cheaper that Am-quel, as the dosege
>> (sp?) is
> less (about 1ml per 10
>> gallons).
>
> Thanks, the only thing I don't like about Prime is that it does more
> than just remove the chlorine/chloramines ... which isn't always a bad
> thing, but I'd rather use just the minimum amount of chemicals needed
> to get the job done. Check out the bottom of this site for a better
> explanation of what I mean:
>
> http://www.thetropicaltank.co.uk/rev-cond.htm
>
> Thanks,
> Harry
>
>
>

tcbiii · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 49

Chuck Gadd wrote in message news:...
> On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 14:18:19 -0500, "Harry Muscle"
> wrote:
>
> >Could someone recommend a good chlorine/chloramine remover to get, that
> >works good, and is cheap in the long run? I'm thinking I'm gonna stick with
>
> I use seachem prime. It deals with Chlorine and Chloramine.
>
>
> Chuck Gadd
> http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua

Ditto here, and Amquel.
Regards,
Tom Barr

neilw · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

As far as I'm aware the only two products that remove the ammonias that
chloramine leaves behind are API Ammo-Lock
Kent Ammonia Detox. Most other dechlorinators claim to remove
chloramine and probably do, but the chloramine leaves behind ammonias
which aren't removed.

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Harry Muscle · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 50

"Dan Drake" wrote in message@localhost...
> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 22:28:33 UTC, neilw
> wrote:
>
> >
> > As far as I'm aware the only two products that remove the ammonias that
> > chloramine leaves behind are API Ammo-Lock
> > Kent Ammonia Detox. Most other dechlorinators claim to remove
> > chloramine and probably do, but the chloramine leaves behind ammonias
> > which aren't removed.
>
> Is there any reason to believe that the claims for Amquel are a lie? It
> is claimed to remove ammonia (but not to isolate it so much that the
> plants and bacteria can't get it), and many people use it specifically to
> keep ammonia under control in tanks that have a temporary shortage of
> biological filtration.
>
>
> --
> Dan Drake
> dd@dandrake.com
> http://www.dandrake.com
>

I found some neat articles in google groups about how amquel works
chemically, from what I read, it all seems to make sense.

Harry

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Dan Drake · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 12

On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 22:28:33 UTC, neilw
wrote:

>
> As far as I'm aware the only two products that remove the ammonias that
> chloramine leaves behind are API Ammo-Lock
> Kent Ammonia Detox. Most other dechlorinators claim to remove
> chloramine and probably do, but the chloramine leaves behind ammonias
> which aren't removed.

Is there any reason to believe that the claims for Amquel are a lie? It
is claimed to remove ammonia (but not to isolate it so much that the
plants and bacteria can't get it), and many people use it specifically to
keep ammonia under control in tanks that have a temporary shortage of
biological filtration.

--
Dan Drake
dd@dandrake.com
http://www.dandrake.com

Chuck Gadd · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 37

On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 23:28:33 +0100, neilw
wrote:

>
>As far as I'm aware the only two products that remove the ammonias that
>chloramine leaves behind are API Ammo-Lock
>Kent Ammonia Detox.

This is definitely not true. There are plenty of other dechlorinators
that also deal with the ammonia.

A few others:

Seachem Prime, Tetra "AquaSafe NH/CL Formula", Jungle's "ACE", and
Kordon's "AmQuel". And I'd bet there are more.

Chuck Gadd
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua