RED GLOW DANIOS HAD BABIES

dlakey · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

http://www.glofish.com/default.asp

"blove" wrote in message$UY6.54253@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> whats their website? ive read they are sterile in aquarium magazines n
> stuff
>
> "TYNK 7" wrote in message
> @mb-m28.aol.com...
> > >Subject: RED GLOW DANIOS HAD BABIES
> > >From: "blove" blove@twcny.rr.com
> > >Date: 12/30/2003 10:45 PM Central Standard Time
> > >Message-id:
> > >
> > >everything ive read said that they are suposed to be
sterile........well
> >
> > If you read in the Glofish web site, it mentions plainly that the glo is
> passed
> > down to the offspring. That would tell me that they're not sterile at
all.
> > I've not read anything on their official site that said anything about
> > thembeing sterile, so I'd for get the buzz, and stick with their site's
> info.
>
>

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blove · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 86

everything ive read said that they are suposed to be sterile........well

at the lfs i work at the only fish that have been in that tank were the glow
in the dark danios. the only other fish we had in that tank were female
bettas and we havnt had any female bettas for over 3 months. so we put glow
in the dark danios in there but they didnt look good with the color gravel
so a week later my manager moved the glow fish to another tank with better
lookin gravel and now yesterday my manager noticed teeny tiny fry in the old
tank and the only fish they could be are the glow fish.

__________________________________________________________________ Sharon
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TYNK 7 · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 55

>Subject: RED GLOW DANIOS HAD BABIES
>From: "blove" blove@twcny.rr.com
>Date: 12/30/2003 10:45 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id:
>
>everything ive read said that they are suposed to be sterile........well

If you read in the Glofish web site, it mentions plainly that the glo is passed
down to the offspring. That would tell me that they're not sterile at all.
I've not read anything on their official site that said anything about
thembeing sterile, so I'd for get the buzz, and stick with their site's info.

blove · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 86

whats their website? ive read they are sterile in aquarium magazines n
stuff

"TYNK 7" wrote in message@mb-m28.aol.com...
> >Subject: RED GLOW DANIOS HAD BABIES
> >From: "blove" blove@twcny.rr.com
> >Date: 12/30/2003 10:45 PM Central Standard Time
> >Message-id:
> >
> >everything ive read said that they are suposed to be sterile........well
>
> If you read in the Glofish web site, it mentions plainly that the glo is
passed
> down to the offspring. That would tell me that they're not sterile at all.
> I've not read anything on their official site that said anything about
> thembeing sterile, so I'd for get the buzz, and stick with their site's
info.

Ken Thomas · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 04:45:20 GMT, "blove" wrote:

>everything ive read said that they are suposed to be sterile........well
>
>at the lfs i work at the only fish that have been in that tank were the glow
>in the dark danios. the only other fish we had in that tank were female
>bettas and we havnt had any female bettas for over 3 months. so we put glow
>in the dark danios in there but they didnt look good with the color gravel
>so a week later my manager moved the glow fish to another tank with better
>lookin gravel and now yesterday my manager noticed teeny tiny fry in the old
>tank and the only fish they could be are the glow fish.
>
>__________________________________________________________________ Sharon
>Love ICQ#: 19404137 Current ICQ status: + More ways to contact me
>__________________________________________________________________
>

Calm down blove. Just calm down. You're wrong. Repeat that a few
times. OK Now take a deep breath and go on with your life.

Sam · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 4

Yeah, GloFish are not supposed to be sterile, or at least that's what they
say proudly in their advertising.

"blove" wrote in message$UY6.3391@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> everything ive read said that they are suposed to be sterile........well
>
> at the lfs i work at the only fish that have been in that tank were the
glow
> in the dark danios. the only other fish we had in that tank were female
> bettas and we havnt had any female bettas for over 3 months. so we put
glow
> in the dark danios in there but they didnt look good with the color gravel
> so a week later my manager moved the glow fish to another tank with better
> lookin gravel and now yesterday my manager noticed teeny tiny fry in the
old
> tank and the only fish they could be are the glow fish.
>
> __________________________________________________________________ Sharon
> Love ICQ#: 19404137 Current ICQ status: + More ways to contact me
> __________________________________________________________________
>
>

FK · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

"blove" wrote in message$UY6.3391@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> everything ive read said that they are suposed to be sterile........well
>
> at the lfs i work at the only fish that have been in that tank were the
glow
> in the dark danios. the only other fish we had in that tank were female
> bettas and we havnt had any female bettas for over 3 months. so we put
glow
> in the dark danios in there but they didnt look good with the color gravel
> so a week later my manager moved the glow fish to another tank with better
> lookin gravel and now yesterday my manager noticed teeny tiny fry in the
old
> tank and the only fish they could be are the glow fish.

x l ent! you're soon to be a rich man! wanna sell some?

Eric Schreiber · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 23

"blove" wrote:

>im a female actually and my employer is gonna raise em up and hopefully be
>able to lower the price on them because they are 6.79 each at the lfs i work
>at.

If they do indeed prove to be GloFish fry, your employer might want to
look carefully at the legal aspects of selling them. It looks as
though the patent holders may be a bit rabid about who can sell them,
and making sure they get their slice of the pie.

From the GloFish web site:

"Because fluorescent fish are unique, their sale is covered by a
substantial number of patents and pending patent applications. The
providers of GloFish™ fluorescent fish, 5-D Tropical and Segrest
Farms, are the only distributors that have the necessary licenses to
produce and market fluorescent fish within the United States. The
production of fluorescent fish by any other party, or the sale of any
fluorescent fish not originally distributed by 5-D Tropical or Segrest
Farms, is strictly prohibited."

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blove · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 86

im a female actually and my employer is gonna raise em up and hopefully be
able to lower the price on them because they are 6.79 each at the lfs i work
at.

"FK" wrote in message$6B.1038@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>
> "blove" wrote in message
> $UY6.3391@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > everything ive read said that they are suposed to be sterile........well
> >
> > at the lfs i work at the only fish that have been in that tank were the
> glow
> > in the dark danios. the only other fish we had in that tank were female
> > bettas and we havnt had any female bettas for over 3 months. so we put
> glow
> > in the dark danios in there but they didnt look good with the color
gravel
> > so a week later my manager moved the glow fish to another tank with
better
> > lookin gravel and now yesterday my manager noticed teeny tiny fry in the
> old
> > tank and the only fish they could be are the glow fish.
>
> x l ent! you're soon to be a rich man! wanna sell some?
>
>

Frankrkay · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 198

>Eric wrote;

>If they do indeed prove to be GloFish fry, your employer might want to
>look carefully at the legal aspects of selling them......

Does anyone remember when they tried this with the gold angels 35 years ago?
Within a year, every breeder out there was breeding them - same thing is going
to happen with these glo-fish........ Frank

Eric Schreiber · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 23

frankrkay@aol.com (Frankrkay) wrote:

>>If they do indeed prove to be GloFish fry, your employer
>>might want to look carefully at the legal aspects of
>>selling them

>Does anyone remember when they tried this with the gold
>angels 35 years ago?

Whew. I'm pleased to say that no, I'm not quite old enough to remember
that. Smile

>Within a year, every breeder out there was breeding them
>same thing is going to happen with these glo-fish.

I suspect you're right. This is why it does/would surprise me that the
producer doesn't sterilize these fish before shipping them. When
you're selling something that breeds as readily as zebra fish do,
you're going to lose effective control of the market almost
immediately.

They may have some luck going after any larger farms that begin
breeding and selling them, but there's just no way to track down every
small store or hobbyist.

I've never been quite able to wrap my mind around the arrogance of the
concept of patenting a living animal, anyway.

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Eric Schreiber · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 23

"Eric Gironda" wrote:

>I think her employer may technically be covered for the sales:
[...]
>Just an armchair attorney's view.

Probably every bit as valid as my armchair view. Bottom line when
dealing with patent claims is use caution.

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Eric Gironda · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

I think her employer may technically be covered for the sales:
"The production of fluorescent fish by any other party"...
Her employer did not do anything to produce the new fish (that
responsibility is on a pair of certain unnamed fish) and the fishes that
were involved in producing the new fish, probably would not be the target of
a lawsuit. The other side "or the sale of any fluorescent fish not
originally distributed by 5-D Tropical or Segrest Farms, is strictly
prohibited." is explained as the fish being sold can definitely be traced
back as to have come directly from fish which all came from the distributor"

Just an armchair attorney's view.

"Eric Schreiber" wrote in message@4ax.com...
> If they do indeed prove to be GloFish fry, your employer might want to
> look carefully at the legal aspects of selling them. It looks as
> though the patent holders may be a bit rabid about who can sell them,
> and making sure they get their slice of the pie.
>
> From the GloFish web site:
>
> "Because fluorescent fish are unique, their sale is covered by a
> substantial number of patents and pending patent applications. The
> providers of GloFishT fluorescent fish, 5-D Tropical and Segrest
> Farms, are the only distributors that have the necessary licenses to
> produce and market fluorescent fish within the United States. The
> production of fluorescent fish by any other party, or the sale of any
> fluorescent fish not originally distributed by 5-D Tropical or Segrest
> Farms, is strictly prohibited."
>
>
> --
> www.ericschreiber.com

TYNK 7 · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 55

>Subject: Re: RED GLOW DANIOS HAD BABIES
>From: "blove" blove@twcny.rr.com
>Date: 12/31/2003 12:02 AM Central Standard Time
>Message-id:
>
>whats their website? ive read they are sterile in aquarium magazines n
>stuff
>

Glofish.com

Eric Schreiber · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 23

Cichlidiot wrote:

>they may be counting on their deeper financial pockets to bully
>people around for a while (settle out of court in other words)
>before someone stands up to them in court.

That's usually how it works, isn't it?

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