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Steve Wolstenholme · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 24

Has this group competently faded away?

Steve

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Steve Wolstenholme · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 24

On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:18:43 +0100, Steve Wolstenholme
wrote:

>Has this group competently faded away?
>

"Competently" spell checker!

Has this group completely faded away?

Steve

Wojciech Milc / The Power · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 14

Steve Wolstenholme wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:18:43 +0100, Steve Wolstenholme
> wrote:
>
>> Has this group competently faded away?
>>
>
> "Competently" spell checker!
>
> Has this group completely faded away?

You know how it is. I know all, Swagergorilla knows all,
so there is nothing to talk about Smile

milc

Wojciech Milc / The Power · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 14

swarvegorilla wrote:
>
> whats your secret method at da moment?

The last ones are: natural mountain spring water
plus JBL Malawi Salt for water changes. I'll be
also testing demerged Eichornia crassipes
(Water Hyacinth) filtration for nitrates control.

milc

Wojciech Milc / The Power · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 14

swarvegorilla wrote:
> hmmmmm....
> natural mountain spring water sounds like the go tho
> good work with that

Nothing to be proud of though. It's just my tap
water here is just full of sh** Smile

I have ~20 ppm nitrates in the tap plus
chloride or smth. Using tap water conditioners
is also costly, so I figured that I'll just
buy bottled spring water (the one with a certificate
that it is OK for infants).

It turns out that it is cheaper and easier
this way.

First, no water conditioners.

Second - if I have 30 ppm nitrates in
the tank, after 5 changes of 20% using
tank water I'll still have around 25.

With this spring water (0 NO3) one
change does the trick.

Third - those 5L bottles are VERY convenient
when filling the tank back Smile

milc

Steve Wolstenholme · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 24

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:25:14 +1000, "swarvegorilla"
wrote:

>and if ya refer to what we call rubin reds here then hell yea
>what an awesome fish.
>Imagine the fish that came and went evolveing all those hundreds of
>cichlids.
>must have been some beautys

Lake Malawi isn't that old in terms of evolution. Only 2,000,000
years. Relative to Tanganyika, Malawi is a baby Smile

The reason for the huge variations in varieties is isolated rocky
areas. My friend who studies the cichlids in the lake says that every
off-coast area where rocks (cliffs) get near to the surface has
different peacocks.

Another friend told me about a cliff that was almost entirely blue
with thousands of Aulonocara - more common than the Mbuna.

Have you seen a blue and yellow barred peacock? I've only seen a
picture of a group of them taken in the lake but never seen any for
sale in the hobby.

Steve

swarvegorilla · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 235

"Wojciech Milc / The Power Of Dreams" wrote in
message $esq$1@atlantis.news.tpi.pl...
> swarvegorilla wrote:
>>
>> whats your secret method at da moment?
>
> The last ones are: natural mountain spring water
> plus JBL Malawi Salt for water changes. I'll be
> also testing demerged Eichornia crassipes
> (Water Hyacinth) filtration for nitrates control.
>
> milc

They are considered noxious here which is a shame,
I have used duckweed in the past tho with ok effect.....
except I fed it back to tanks so the nitrate never really escaped.
hmmmmm....
natural mountain spring water sounds like the go tho
good work with that

swarvegorilla · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 235

"Steve Wolstenholme" wrote in message @4ax.com...
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:25:14 +1000, "swarvegorilla"
> wrote:
>
>>and if ya refer to what we call rubin reds here then hell yea
>>what an awesome fish.
>>Imagine the fish that came and went evolveing all those hundreds of
>>cichlids.
>>must have been some beautys
>
> Lake Malawi isn't that old in terms of evolution. Only 2,000,000
> years. Relative to Tanganyika, Malawi is a baby Smile

>
> The reason for the huge variations in varieties is isolated rocky
> areas. My friend who studies the cichlids in the lake says that every
> off-coast area where rocks (cliffs) get near to the surface has
> different peacocks.
>
> Another friend told me about a cliff that was almost entirely blue
> with thousands of Aulonocara - more common than the Mbuna.
>
> Have you seen a blue and yellow barred peacock? I've only seen a
> picture of a group of them taken in the lake but never seen any for
> sale in the hobby.

not that I can think of, but Iv'e seen a lot of 'assorted' peacock in me
time so maybe.
LOL

>
> Steve
>

Marco Schwarz · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 115

Hi..

> I'm thinking - I'm paying for spring water
> for the fish, while my family drinks the tap
> water. Is that crazy enough to be a good aquarist? Smile

Absolutely..! *LOL*

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cu
Marco

swarvegorilla · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 235

"Marco Schwarz" wrote in message $mkq$02$1@news.t-online.com...
> Hi..
>
>> I'm thinking - I'm paying for spring water
>> for the fish, while my family drinks the tap
>> water. Is that crazy enough to be a good aquarist? Smile

>
> Absolutely..! *LOL*
>

Like me buying prime fish fillets to blend into jelly fish food and then
eating spag bol meself

Mark Stone · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 22

All Usenet groups have blossomed -- into spam and porn buckets! That's why I
think most of us have gone to internet forums instead. I used to maintain
the FAQ postings for the .aquaria newsgroups, and created the
alt.aquaria.oscars group, but even old grey-headed die hards like me moved
on, although I like to look into usenet from time to time. Try Tony's site,
Worldcichlids dot com, for a busy moderated forum. I am admin at the
Cichlidfish dot com forums, but we're a bit slow these days. Academics are
frequenting SACSG (South American Cichlid Study Group) at groups.yahoo.com
but most of the discussions are over my head. I don't think we could foresee
the flood of spam here in the newsgroups. About 11 or 12 years ago, we had a
serious discussion about moderating rec.aquaria.freshwater.cichlids, but the
majority of us chose to vote against it. Now, I wish we had voted for the
moderation. Anyway, i think the moderated world of the internet forum is
where most of us have gone!

The FAQs for this (and the other aquaria) newsgroups is still maintained and
mirrored: http://faq.thekrib.com and is still packed with
information. --Mark Stone
"Steve Wolstenholme" wrote in message@4ax.com...
> Has this group competently faded away?
>
> Steve
>
> --
> Steve Wolstenholme Neural Planner Software Ltd
>
> EasyNN-plus. The easy way to build neural networks.
>
> http://www.easynn.com

Steve Wolstenholme · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 24

On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 16:28:31 -0600, "Mark Stone"
wrote:

>All Usenet groups have blossomed -- into spam and porn buckets! That's why I
>think most of us have gone to internet forums instead. I used to maintain
>the FAQ postings for the .aquaria newsgroups, and created the
>alt.aquaria.oscars group, but even old grey-headed die hards like me moved
>on, although I like to look into usenet from time to time. Try Tony's site,
>Worldcichlids dot com, for a busy moderated forum. I am admin at the
>Cichlidfish dot com forums, but we're a bit slow these days. Academics are
>frequenting SACSG (South American Cichlid Study Group) at groups.yahoo.com
>but most of the discussions are over my head. I don't think we could foresee
>the flood of spam here in the newsgroups. About 11 or 12 years ago, we had a
>serious discussion about moderating rec.aquaria.freshwater.cichlids, but the
>majority of us chose to vote against it. Now, I wish we had voted for the
>moderation. Anyway, i think the moderated world of the internet forum is
>where most of us have gone!
>

Yes, but some of us find web forums to be a pain in the neck. A good
news reader application can check hundreds of usenet groups quite
quickly just with a single key. Checking the same number of web forums
would take days. Just to look through all the Cichlid web forums would
take hours. It would be so bad if all the forums were in the same
place and used the same methods for navigation. I haven't got the time
to look at the web forums.

Spam and porn are simple to deal with. Again it's up to the
application that is used.

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Steve Wolstenholme Neural Planner Software Ltd

EasyNN-plus. The easy way to build neural networks.

http://www.easynn.com

Mark Stone · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 22

All good points, guess it's a matter of taste. I find the forums easier
because I don't use very many -- also, administrating makes it easier and
more interesting. Looking through rec.aquaria.freshwater.cichlids I see a
lot more legitimate posts than I had assumed.
"Steve Wolstenholme" wrote in message@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 16:28:31 -0600, "Mark Stone"
> wrote:
>
> >All Usenet groups have blossomed -- into spam and porn buckets! That's
why I
> >think most of us have gone to internet forums instead. I used to maintain
> >the FAQ postings for the .aquaria newsgroups, and created the
> >alt.aquaria.oscars group, but even old grey-headed die hards like me
moved
> >on, although I like to look into usenet from time to time. Try Tony's
site,
> >Worldcichlids dot com, for a busy moderated forum. I am admin at the
> >Cichlidfish dot com forums, but we're a bit slow these days. Academics
are
> >frequenting SACSG (South American Cichlid Study Group) at
groups.yahoo.com
> >but most of the discussions are over my head. I don't think we could
foresee
> >the flood of spam here in the newsgroups. About 11 or 12 years ago, we
had a
> >serious discussion about moderating rec.aquaria.freshwater.cichlids, but
the
> >majority of us chose to vote against it. Now, I wish we had voted for the
> >moderation. Anyway, i think the moderated world of the internet forum is
> >where most of us have gone!
> >
>
> Yes, but some of us find web forums to be a pain in the neck. A good
> news reader application can check hundreds of usenet groups quite
> quickly just with a single key. Checking the same number of web forums
> would take days. Just to look through all the Cichlid web forums would
> take hours. It would be so bad if all the forums were in the same
> place and used the same methods for navigation. I haven't got the time
> to look at the web forums.
>
> Spam and porn are simple to deal with. Again it's up to the
> application that is used.
>
> --
> Steve Wolstenholme Neural Planner Software Ltd
>
> EasyNN-plus. The easy way to build neural networks.
>
> http://www.easynn.com

Paul · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 13

Steve Wolstenholme wrote:

> Yes, but some of us find web forums to be a pain in the neck. A good
> news reader application can check hundreds of usenet groups quite
> quickly just with a single key. Checking the same number of web forums
> would take days. Just to look through all the Cichlid web forums would
> take hours. It would be so bad if all the forums were in the same
> place and used the same methods for navigation. I haven't got the time
> to look at the web forums.
>
> Spam and porn are simple to deal with. Again it's up to the
> application that is used.
>
Agreed, except, the *current* barrage of spam has driven away even
the most staunch posters. So... there is nothing left to read. I'm
hoping the knowledgeable folks will come back some day, as I like
Usenet. yeah, web forums, and blogs are cumbersome to navigate.
Paul

Steve Wolstenholme · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 24

On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 20:14:28 -0500, Paul wrote:

> Agreed, except, the *current* barrage of spam has driven away even
>the most staunch posters. So... there is nothing left to read. I'm
>hoping the knowledgeable folks will come back some day, as I like
>Usenet. yeah, web forums, and blogs are cumbersome to navigate.
>Paul

I'm not getting any spam. I've no idea what is removing it. There is
nothing in my junk or kill folder.

Steve

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Steve Wolstenholme Neural Planner Software Ltd

EasyNN-plus. The easy way to build neural networks.

http://www.easynn.com