New Guy-getting feet wet (long)

John Rutz · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 66

Skooch wrote:
> Hi! Everybody
>
> I’m the new guy in the pond! Lehigh Valley, PA.
>

welcome to the PORG colective

John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

good judgement comes from bad experience, and that comes from bad
judgement

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

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Skooch · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

Hi! Everybody

I’m the new guy in the pond! Lehigh Valley, PA.

To start:
>Who is the youngest and who is the oldest? Cathy

I’m only Twee an’ a have years old: times
(14.285714285714285714285714285714) = 50

I finally succumbed to the dreaded disease: Nishikigoi-itis, a.k.a.
Koi-itis, the insatiable desire to own $500.00+/lb Carp. It has been
incubating inside me for many years.

Early symptoms manifested themselves back when I was 17, baby sister won
a goldfish at the local fire company carnival. After one day alone Sis
thought it looked sad and needed a friend. So, off to the LFS, which was
at that time 2 Guys From Harrison (NJ), went Big Brother, with Little
Sister in tow.

TMALSS. A Big GF bowl did not look good to either of us. 10g starter kit
ON SALE. Thus started a 20 year addiction to TF. One 10g, led to 2-10g,
added a 20g, and another 20g, then a 55g and a 55g SW tank.(beginning of
the popularity of live reefs) upon the "DEATH" of my SW tank I packed it
in for 10 years. 5 years ago I bought my first house w/ 1.5 acres. I
started a 30 g TF tank, all died off but My 12" Pl*co who now resides
(happily) in the brack(ish) water of a swamp tank.

Three years ago the fever started, the virus incubated, as time allowed
I researched for information about Koi, ponds, filters, liners vs. clay,
all sorts of info. I was fine, (some people would debate that), until
some one gave me a 90g pre-formed. I couldn’t rest until I had it in the
ground, had water flowing, and 30 Feeder GF in it to “Jump Start” it.

Now a month and a half later:

25 of the 30 Feeders are still alive (being moved to QT to "Jump Start" it)

5 Koi added ( I know I’m overcrowded, working on bigger pond(s))
water chemistry, could not be better

5 WH added (now the bi*ch s have over 12 pups (in 1.5 months))

18"H X 24"W X 8"D waterwall added (so called as water trickles over the
stones layer by layer)

http://users.rcn.com/trooper2000/pictures/Pond/Overallbareview.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/trooper2000/pictures/Pond/Waterwallbare.jpg

http://users.rcn.com/trooper2000/pictures/Pond/overallmossed.jpg

210 GPH pump swapped out to a 550 GPH pump
(not enough waterwall action and water noise)

16 g masons pan VF added, w/ WH, Watercress and BioMass

8 Cattails, 2 water lilies, 6 anacharis, 6 hornwort.

15 Irises, (temp. till plant holding tank is finished)

moss added to waterwall

300-watt heater added to minimize 10 – 15 degree water temperature
fluctuation (Eastern Pa. has not had much sun lately)

work in progress:
cutting down trees,(neglected for 30 years)
pulling stumps (instant half dug holes)
laying out 2-3 new ponds, stream, new 2 story garage, shed, deck, and
2nd story house addition

5 year plan:
this year - 2nd pond ,shed
yr 2 - 3rd & 4th pond and stream between 2&3
yr 3-5 garage, deck, 2nd story
Oh Ya! I almost forgot, 2-story sunroom between house and garage w/
waterfall and inside/outside pond.
Yhat leaves me with a 1/2 acre of grass that I still have to mow. I
guess I can alway convert that into ???. Maybe a mini great lake.

OH! OH!, Me thinks I’ve got it, A full blown, deadly case of KOV
(Koi Owners Virus)
IS THERE ANY HELP FOR ME???
Enough of this long winded dissertation of my new addiction, it’s time
to turn on the A/C, and go to sleep so that the “Visions of $500.00/lb
Carp can dance in my head”
/\/\ike

p.s. local well known Koi supplier just had (12) 8-10" Koi mysteriously
vanish from his outside pond between Sat. 9PM and Sun. 6AM after only
being put in the pond Fri. afternoon. (7) 14-24" Koi were still in the
pond. No leads! No evidence!

*muffin* · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 43

HIYA MIke!
I hope you & your pond buddies find the lilies I sent you , ok,,,

Muffin > ended up sending out 15 boxes of lilies!!!

"Skooch" wrote in message @rcn.com...
> Hi! Everybody
>
> I’m the new guy in the pond! Lehigh Valley, PA.
>
> > /\/\ike
>
>

Skooch · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

Carl And Steve @ Koi by Keirin

Bonnie Espenshade wrote:
> Skooch wrote:
>
>> Hi! Everybody
>
>
> Hi Mike,
> I have yet to get the yearlings out of the pond. Who lost the fish?
>

Skooch · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

Bonnie Espenshade wrote:
> Skooch wrote:
> local well known Koi supplier just had (12) 8-10" Koi mysteriously vanish

> Who lost the fish?

Koi by Keirin

I was there right after they were put in the pond on Friday.

I went back Sunday morning to deliver a load of moss for Steve to put
around the waterfall, and was told of the bad news.

I told Steve that I had a dream about the fish Saturday night. It was
more of a vision since the outcome was the fish dissappeared in it too.

Only I did dream that they were stolen. I remember waking up about
3-3:30 that morning. with a bad feeling.

No! I do not consider myself physic, I do not solve cases for the
police, definitly not a John Edwards type either, but i am prone to
bouts of "Deja Vue"

/\/\ike

Bonnie Espenshade · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 49

Skooch wrote:
> Hi! Everybody

Hi Mike,
I have yet to get the yearlings out of the pond. Who lost
the fish?

--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/

Bonnie Espenshade · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 49

Skooch wrote:
> Carl And Steve @ Koi by Keirin
>
> Bonnie Espenshade wrote:
>
I wondered when I was over if the koi outside where ever
taken. There was two there that I really liked. I didn't
bother to ask the price. They were beauties. What a shame.
Hope they have installed some type of security.

--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/

Skooch · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

Bonnie If you're talking about the one along side the greenhouse they
have had no problems that I know of. They weren't touched this time.

They just took the last shipment out of quarentine on Sunday, I was
helping net the last of the stragglers. He has some awesome fish.

He has a beauty there. $8000.00 fish with a barely noticable scar on
it's head that he is holding for a customer that was reduced to $3000.00.

Of course, almost all the beauties he has are out of my price range.
I cringe at $25.00 for his cheapest one. But you know they are good,
for now i'll get just as attached to my $4.99 cheapies from Tillies
Garden Center.

I just got in, from delivering, some hardy lillys, I received for
"muffin", to a friend, not far from you, Brunswick Ave. in B'bury.

Muffin sent me 5 large tubers, I broke them apart into 14 crowns (2 with
buds on) and 2 logs with a few nodes that look like they will sprout
into a few more.

/\/\ike

Bonnie Espenshade wrote:
> Skooch wrote:
>
>> Carl And Steve @ Koi by Keirin
>>
>> Bonnie Espenshade wrote:
>>
> I wondered when I was over if the koi outside where ever
> taken. There was two there that I really liked. I didn't
> bother to ask the price. They were beauties. What a shame.
> Hope they have installed some type of security.
>

Nedra · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 83

Mike, Unlike some folks here - I don't know you from
Adam's house cat ... But I have dreams like the one you
just had. I wonder what causes it? I hardly ever tell about
my dreams for fear someone will say: "Oh Yeah ....."
You have unleased me, Mike! Now I'll tell my dreams
and let the devil take the hindmost
(old saying of my Dad's) ...

Nedra
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Skooch" wrote in message @rcn.com...
>
>
> Bonnie Espenshade wrote:
> > Skooch wrote:
> > local well known Koi supplier just had (12) 8-10" Koi mysteriously
vanish
>
>
> > Who lost the fish?
>
>
> Koi by Keirin
>
> I was there right after they were put in the pond on Friday.
>
> I went back Sunday morning to deliver a load of moss for Steve to put
> around the waterfall, and was told of the bad news.
>
> I told Steve that I had a dream about the fish Saturday night. It was
> more of a vision since the outcome was the fish dissappeared in it too.
>
> Only I did dream that they were stolen. I remember waking up about
> 3-3:30 that morning. with a bad feeling.
>
> No! I do not consider myself physic, I do not solve cases for the
> police, definitly not a John Edwards type either, but i am prone to
> bouts of "Deja Vue"
>
> /\/\ike
>
>

Bonnie Espenshade · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 49

Skooch wrote:
> Bonnie If you're talking about the one along side the greenhouse they
> have had no problems that I know of. They weren't touched this time.
>
> They just took the last shipment out of quarentine on Sunday, I was
> helping net the last of the stragglers. He has some awesome fish.
>
> He has a beauty there. $8000.00 fish with a barely noticable scar on
> it's head that he is holding for a customer that was reduced to $3000.00.

> Of course, almost all the beauties he has are out of my price range.
> I cringe at $25.00 for his cheapest one. But you know they are good,
> for now i'll get just as attached to my $4.99 cheapies from Tillies
> Garden Center.
>
> I just got in, from delivering, some hardy lillys, I received for
> "muffin", to a friend, not far from you, Brunswick Ave. in B'bury.
>
> Muffin sent me 5 large tubers, I broke them apart into 14 crowns (2 with
> buds on) and 2 logs with a few nodes that look like they will sprout
> into a few more.
>
> /\/\ike

Yeah, you were just down the road a bit. Tillies is more in
line with my budget also Wink

, but I can dream.
--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/