Need koi ID, please.

David Larson · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 6

Hello all,

OK, so I was at my local koi dealer yeaterday and saw this one beauty that was new to me. The koi
has a dull dark grey body about 4 inches long, and has individual silvery specks scatterered all
over. The specks shimmer in the light. The nearest I can figure is a variation of Kawarimono-Karasu
but the silver specks confuse me.

Anyone here know the name of this specimen?

- David

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David Larson · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 6

Hello Bonnie,

> David Larson wrote:
>
> > OK, so I was at my local koi dealer yeaterday and saw this one beauty that was new to me. The koi
> > has a dull dark grey body about 4 inches long, and has individual silvery specks scatterered all
> > over. The specks shimmer in the light. The nearest I can figure is a variation of Kawarimono-Karasu
> > but the silver specks confuse me.
> >
> > Anyone here know the name of this specimen?
>
> I though Kawarimono was a non-metallic koi. If it has
> silver it cannot be Kawarimono, it would be Hikari Karasu.

That is what I thought at first, but the black (Karasu) is not metallic (Hikari), but rather is of a
dull dark grey nature. Only the few silvery scales appear metallic (Gin).

- David

Bonnie Espenshade · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 49

David Larson wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> OK, so I was at my local koi dealer yeaterday and saw this one beauty that was new to me. The koi
> has a dull dark grey body about 4 inches long, and has individual silvery specks scatterered all
> over. The specks shimmer in the light. The nearest I can figure is a variation of Kawarimono-Karasu
> but the silver specks confuse me.
>
> Anyone here know the name of this specimen?
>
> - David
>

I though Kawarimono was a non-metallic koi. If it has
silver it cannot be Kawarimono, it would be Hikari Karasu.

--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/

PER JOHANNESSON · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 3

Some metallic koi without a variety of their own are shown in Kawarimono
class.
This, however, sounds more like a soragoi (grey, non metallic) with
kinginrin scales (a diamond or pearl like shine to the scale itself and not
to the skin.) Of course it is hard to tell without a picture.

Regards,
Per Johannesson

"David Larson" skrev i meddelandet@SPAMwebmedia.net...
> Hello Bonnie,
>
> > David Larson wrote:
> >
> > > OK, so I was at my local koi dealer yeaterday and saw this one beauty
that was new to me. The koi
> > > has a dull dark grey body about 4 inches long, and has individual
silvery specks scatterered all
> > > over. The specks shimmer in the light. The nearest I can figure is a
variation of Kawarimono-Karasu
> > > but the silver specks confuse me.
> > >
> > > Anyone here know the name of this specimen?
> >
> > I though Kawarimono was a non-metallic koi. If it has
> > silver it cannot be Kawarimono, it would be Hikari Karasu.
>
> That is what I thought at first, but the black (Karasu) is not metallic
(Hikari), but rather is of a
> dull dark grey nature. Only the few silvery scales appear metallic (Gin).
>
> - David
>
>

PER JOHANNESSON · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 3

Sorry, I just reread the original post and noticed that David wrote "DARK
grey". In that case it should be a karasugoi or maybe magoi. A soragoi is
light grey.

Regards,
Per Johannesson

"PER JOHANNESSON" skrev i meddelandet$aD4.490@nntpserver.swip.net...
> Some metallic koi without a variety of their own are shown in Kawarimono
> class.
> This, however, sounds more like a soragoi (grey, non metallic) with
> kinginrin scales (a diamond or pearl like shine to the scale itself and
not
> to the skin.) Of course it is hard to tell without a picture.
>
> Regards,
> Per Johannesson
>
> "David Larson" skrev i meddelandet
> @SPAMwebmedia.net...
> > Hello Bonnie,
> >
> > > David Larson wrote:
> > >
> > > > OK, so I was at my local koi dealer yeaterday and saw this one
beauty
> that was new to me. The koi
> > > > has a dull dark grey body about 4 inches long, and has individual
> silvery specks scatterered all
> > > > over. The specks shimmer in the light. The nearest I can figure is a
> variation of Kawarimono-Karasu
> > > > but the silver specks confuse me.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone here know the name of this specimen?
> > >
> > > I though Kawarimono was a non-metallic koi. If it has
> > > silver it cannot be Kawarimono, it would be Hikari Karasu.
> >
> > That is what I thought at first, but the black (Karasu) is not metallic
> (Hikari), but rather is of a
> > dull dark grey nature. Only the few silvery scales appear metallic
(Gin).
> >
> > - David
> >
> >
>
>

zookeeper · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 30

David Larson wrote:
> OK, so I was at my local koi dealer yeaterday and saw this one beauty that was new to me. The koi
> has a dull dark grey body about 4 inches long, and has individual silvery specks scatterered all
> over. The specks shimmer in the light. The nearest I can figure is a variation of Kawarimono-Karasu
> but the silver specks confuse me.

David, found this photo while shuffling through the Internet today.
http://www.goldenkoi.com/new_koi/koi/small/OGO-004-small.jpg
Is this close to the same color?
--
Kathy B

Jerrispond · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 6

>and has individual silvery specks scatterered

The specks are called gin rin they look like diamonds , and can be on any
color fish.... I have an orange and black gin rin ....beautiful......Jerri

http://www.fringeweb.com/Ponds/JerrisPond