Lead weights for plants

RedForeman ©® · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 339

I have a lead melter/burner device that melts about a US pound of lead at a
time. I'd like to find out how to make a mold to shape it in.

My current ideas are, using 1"x1" wood, and fastening it to make a series of
steps, X's or triangular shaped ridges /\/\/\/\/\ in some fashion, cap on
both ends, and pour the lead into the valleys, and cool, extract, lay on
sheet of "_____________" to resist sticking, and heat in oven till a temp
that allows the metal to be mallable. Use rolling pin to flatten, and
orient them to the same size, cut off the ends, and shape as needed...

As you can see, I've got the idea worked out but need the blank filled in..
Also, if you can help make the mold, or improve upon it, I'll make some
strips for you too... btw, I've got 40lbs of lead...

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Crusader · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

Isn`t the lead a poison?

"GloFish" wrote in message@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 18 May 2004 09:28:12 -0400, "RedForeman ©®"
> wrote:
>
> >I have a lead melter/burner device that melts about a US pound of lead at
a
> >time. I'd like to find out how to make a mold to shape it in.
> >
> >My current ideas are, using 1"x1" wood, and fastening it to make a series
of
> >steps, X's or triangular shaped ridges /\/\/\/\/\ in some fashion, cap on
> >both ends, and pour the lead into the valleys, and cool, extract, lay on
> >sheet of "_____________" to resist sticking, and heat in oven till a temp
> >that allows the metal to be mallable. Use rolling pin to flatten, and
> >orient them to the same size, cut off the ends, and shape as needed...
> >
> >As you can see, I've got the idea worked out but need the blank filled
in..
> >Also, if you can help make the mold, or improve upon it, I'll make some
> >strips for you too... btw, I've got 40lbs of lead...
>
>
> Marble butting board.... or granite..... in the pastry kitchen we use
> a large piece of granite about an inch thick to cool cooked sugar and
> chocolate....
>
> The lead shouldn't stick, and often can get leftovers from local
> quarries or cabinet makers.... those kitchen counters do break on
> occasion....
>
> As for the mold.... I used to do this long long ago for wishing
> weights - lead strips, just like we use for plants... I used sand,
> although all I did was pour it flat and cut the strips out using a
> razor knife and a T-square.
>
> hope that inspires something useful.
>
>
> --Tony

GloFish · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 16

On Tue, 18 May 2004 09:28:12 -0400, "RedForeman ©®"
wrote:

>I have a lead melter/burner device that melts about a US pound of lead at a
>time. I'd like to find out how to make a mold to shape it in.
>
>My current ideas are, using 1"x1" wood, and fastening it to make a series of
>steps, X's or triangular shaped ridges /\/\/\/\/\ in some fashion, cap on
>both ends, and pour the lead into the valleys, and cool, extract, lay on
>sheet of "_____________" to resist sticking, and heat in oven till a temp
>that allows the metal to be mallable. Use rolling pin to flatten, and
>orient them to the same size, cut off the ends, and shape as needed...
>
>As you can see, I've got the idea worked out but need the blank filled in..
>Also, if you can help make the mold, or improve upon it, I'll make some
>strips for you too... btw, I've got 40lbs of lead...

Marble butting board.... or granite..... in the pastry kitchen we use
a large piece of granite about an inch thick to cool cooked sugar and
chocolate....

The lead shouldn't stick, and often can get leftovers from local
quarries or cabinet makers.... those kitchen counters do break on
occasion....

As for the mold.... I used to do this long long ago for wishing
weights - lead strips, just like we use for plants... I used sand,
although all I did was pour it flat and cut the strips out using a
razor knife and a T-square.

hope that inspires something useful.

--Tony

RedForeman ©® · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 339

|| Isn`t the lead a poison?

This is a lead that is used in muzzleloading. I believe it to be a lead tin
alloy....

From this page http://www.chemicalelements.com/elements/pb.html

The 7 elements classified as "other metals" are located in groups 13,
14, and 15. While these elements are ductile and malleable, they are not the
same as the transition elements. These elements, unlike the transition
elements, do not exhibit variable oxidation states, and their valence
electrons are only present in their outer shell. All of these elements are
solid, have a relatively high density, and are opaque. They have oxidation
numbers of +3, ±4, and -3.

The "Other Metals" are:
a.. Aluminum
b.. Gallium
c.. Indium
d.. Tin
e.. Thallium
f.. Lead
g.. Bismuth

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is that better??

RedForeman ©® · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 339

|| I have a lead melter/burner device that melts about a US pound of
|| lead at a time. I'd like to find out how to make a mold to shape it
|| in.

I think I've found my mold... If this works, I'll make enough for the whole
group, for cost of shipping 50 or so.... we'll find a way to make it
work...

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is that better??

RedForeman ©® · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 339

http://www.trapshooters.com/cfpages/thread.cfm?threadid=24126&messages=19

Scroll down to read a bunch of article/posts from other shooters, who have
all done this, and been around it for over 20 years... I myself have been
doing it for almost 20 years...

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Scott Rogahn · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

I load pistol ammo for league use. Both kids have been tested part of
normal yearly check up with no problems. I have never been tested. I do
take the precaution of emptying my case cleaner outside away from the house.
I also wash immediately after handling the tumbling media or lead bullets.

This is way off topic, but what the hell
Scott

"RedForeman ©®" wrote in message@corp.supernews.com...
> http://www.trapshooters.com/cfpages/thread.cfm?threadid=24126&messages=19
>
> Scroll down to read a bunch of article/posts from other shooters, who have
> all done this, and been around it for over 20 years... I myself have been
> doing it for almost 20 years...
>
> --
> RedForeman ©® future fabricator and creator of a ratbike
> streetfighter!!! ==========================
> 2003 TRX450ES
> 1992 TRX-350 XX (For Sale)
> '98 Tacoma Ext Cab 4X4 Lifted....
> ==========================
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>
>
> is that better??
>
>

Charles Spitzer · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 42

lead is absorbed via breathing or ingestion. it isn't absorbed through the
skin unless you have a break in the skin.

"Sir Douglas Cook" wrote in message$qJ5.682356@news20.bellglobal.com...
> That is true, some added information on lead.
> Some Stain Glass workers use gloves as
> the lead can be absorbed through the skin.
>
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> "Dinky" wrote in message
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> >
> >
> > "Crusader" wrote in message
> > $cJ1.1313@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> > | Isn`t the lead a poison?
> > |
> >
> >
> > This topic has been gone through pretty heavily here, and the
> > concensus generally reached is that it doesn't break down in
> > freshwater at a high enough rate to cause a problem. But Red should
> > avoid eating the lead during his project.
> >
> >
>
>

Sir Douglas Cook · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

|| Isn`t the lead a poison?

This is a lead that is used in muzzleloading. I believe it to be a lead tin
alloy....

So when you get shot in the head,,,
"It isn't the poison that kills ya!"

I thought is was funny... sorry.. I must be getting tired.

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"RedForeman ©®" wrote in message@corp.supernews.com...
> || Isn`t the lead a poison?
>
> This is a lead that is used in muzzleloading. I believe it to be a lead
tin
> alloy....
>
> From this page http://www.chemicalelements.com/elements/pb.html
>
> The 7 elements classified as "other metals" are located in groups
13,
> 14, and 15. While these elements are ductile and malleable, they are not
the
> same as the transition elements. These elements, unlike the transition
> elements, do not exhibit variable oxidation states, and their valence
> electrons are only present in their outer shell. All of these elements are
> solid, have a relatively high density, and are opaque. They have oxidation
> numbers of +3, ±4, and -3.
>
> The "Other Metals" are:
> a.. Aluminum
> b.. Gallium
> c.. Indium
> d.. Tin
> e.. Thallium
> f.. Lead
> g.. Bismuth
>
>
>
> --
> RedForeman ©® future fabricator and creator of a ratbike
> streetfighter!!! ==========================
> 2003 TRX450ES
> 1992 TRX-350 XX (For Sale)
> '98 Tacoma Ext Cab 4X4 Lifted....
> ==========================
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>
>
> is that better??
>
>

Sir Douglas Cook · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

That is true, some added information on lead.
Some Stain Glass workers use gloves as
the lead can be absorbed through the skin.

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"Dinky" wrote in message$be.264@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
>
> "Crusader" wrote in message
> $cJ1.1313@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> | Isn`t the lead a poison?
> |
>
>
> This topic has been gone through pretty heavily here, and the
> concensus generally reached is that it doesn't break down in
> freshwater at a high enough rate to cause a problem. But Red should
> avoid eating the lead during his project.
>
>

Vicki S · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 6

Hehehe.....Off topic but close to my heart. Hey Red, ever shoot a 1860
Enfield? Great gun to shoot and not to bad of a kick. But then again,
black powder is a world apart.

Vicki

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"Crusader" wrote in message$cJ1.1313@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
| Isn`t the lead a poison?
|

This topic has been gone through pretty heavily here, and the
concensus generally reached is that it doesn't break down in
freshwater at a high enough rate to cause a problem. But Red should
avoid eating the lead during his project.

Charles Spitzer · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 42

references? i work in the stained glass industry. it's pretty commonly known
that almost all lead is ingested or inhaled. osha doesn't require gloves
when working with lead, although they do require, in certain cases,
respirators.

in actuality, the only reference to skin in the osha regulation is because
of possible skin irritation and not absorption.

http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=STANDARDS&p_id=10030

"Sir Douglas Cook" wrote in message$qJ5.729065@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Sorry, but it is a fact that lead is absorbed through unbroken skin.
> In the same manner as a patch for smoking.
>
> Although, I don't have a wimis data sheet on me.
>
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> "Charles Spitzer" wrote in message
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> > lead is absorbed via breathing or ingestion. it isn't absorbed through
the
> > skin unless you have a break in the skin.
> >
> > "Sir Douglas Cook" wrote in
message
> > $qJ5.682356@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > That is true, some added information on lead.
> > > Some Stain Glass workers use gloves as
> > > the lead can be absorbed through the skin.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sir Douglas Cook
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Crusader" wrote in message
> > > > $cJ1.1313@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> > > > | Isn`t the lead a poison?
> > > > |
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This topic has been gone through pretty heavily here, and the
> > > > concensus generally reached is that it doesn't break down in
> > > > freshwater at a high enough rate to cause a problem. But Red should
> > > > avoid eating the lead during his project.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Sir Douglas Cook · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 8

Sorry, but it is a fact that lead is absorbed through unbroken skin.
In the same manner as a patch for smoking.

Although, I don't have a wimis data sheet on me.

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"Charles Spitzer" wrote in message$9p0$1@transfer.stratus.com...
> lead is absorbed via breathing or ingestion. it isn't absorbed through the
> skin unless you have a break in the skin.
>
> "Sir Douglas Cook" wrote in message
> $qJ5.682356@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > That is true, some added information on lead.
> > Some Stain Glass workers use gloves as
> > the lead can be absorbed through the skin.
> >
> > --
> > Sir Douglas Cook
> > sirdouglascook2004@hotmailNOSPAM.com
> > http://www.greyspace.bravehostNOSPAM.com/
> > Remove "NOSPAM" for correct address
> > London Ontario Canada
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> >
> >
> > "Dinky" wrote in message
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> > >
> > >
> > > "Crusader" wrote in message
> > > $cJ1.1313@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> > > | Isn`t the lead a poison?
> > > |
> > >
> > >
> > > This topic has been gone through pretty heavily here, and the
> > > concensus generally reached is that it doesn't break down in
> > > freshwater at a high enough rate to cause a problem. But Red should
> > > avoid eating the lead during his project.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

NetMax · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 614

I think he has a supply of lead-tin alloy and an interest in utilizing
it. If all he really needed was lead weight for plants, I'd send him
some. I buy it in 10 lb spools and give it away at work. Making your
own sounds like much more fun ;~)
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"skozzy" wrote in message$0$1586$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> If you want thin flat strips then pour the lead onto a marble surface,
as
> it's cooling run a roller over it, once set then use a guillotine to
cut it.
>
> Otherwise you use aluminium. Making sinkers for fishing is done with
> aluminium molds.
>
>
>
> "RedForeman ©®" wrote in message
> @corp.supernews.com...
> > I have a lead melter/burner device that melts about a US pound of
lead at
> a
> > time. I'd like to find out how to make a mold to shape it in.
> >
> > My current ideas are, using 1"x1" wood, and fastening it to make a
series
> of
> > steps, X's or triangular shaped ridges /\/\/\/\/\ in some fashion,
cap on
> > both ends, and pour the lead into the valleys, and cool, extract, lay
on
> > sheet of "_____________" to resist sticking, and heat in oven till a
temp
> > that allows the metal to be mallable. Use rolling pin to flatten,
and
> > orient them to the same size, cut off the ends, and shape as
needed...
> >
> > As you can see, I've got the idea worked out but need the blank
filled
> in..
> > Also, if you can help make the mold, or improve upon it, I'll make
some
> > strips for you too... btw, I've got 40lbs of lead...
> >
> > --
> > RedForeman ©® future fabricator and creator of a ratbike
> > streetfighter!!! ==========================
> > 2003 TRX450ES
> > 1992 TRX-350 XX (For Sale)
> > '98 Tacoma Ext Cab 4X4 Lifted....
> > ==========================
> > ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø
> >
> >
> > is that better??
> >
> >
>
>