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KurtG



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Kalkwasser Reply with quote

Patrick wrote:
> Does anyone have a preferred kalkwasser mix (for those that use one).


http://mrswages.stores.yahoo.net/mrswagpiclim.html

Not only is it dirt cheap, but it doesn't leave a yellow residue behind
and it appears to last longer (no evidence, just subjective). I go for
months between washing out my containers.

I've also seen it at wal-mart in the fall, but at this time of year, you
may need to order it.

--Kurt

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Wayne Sallee



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Kalkwasser Reply with quote

And you are using RO water, and not aerating the
lime water, right?

I found a really good source directly from a
manufacture here in Florida. I used to sell it in
the store. Just for the fun of it, I sold it real
cheap. I sold it for a $1.00 a bag. Then when people
would see it and ask what it was, I'd say "It's a
dollar bag". Smile

Hmm, maybe I should start buying it again, and
auction it off on ebay. Smile

Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com


Patrick wrote on 1/2/2008 8:47 AM:
> Happy New Year,
>
> Does anyone have a preferred kalkwasser mix (for those that use one).
> I'm currently using Kent Marine, but I've noticed a lot more precipitate
> in the mix lately, using the same proportions of water / powder. Anyone
> have any experience with any other brands?
>
> Thanks - Patrick
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KurtG



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Kalkwasser Reply with quote

Wayne Sallee wrote:
> I'd say "It's a dollar bag". Smile

If somebody snorted it, it would be their own damn fault. (Ouch!)
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Wayne Sallee



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Kalkwasser Reply with quote

You say that you are using the same water, but if
you are using tap water, that changes.

Dry calcium hydroxide will loose it's strength by
absorbing CO2. It's best for long time storage, that
you store it in an air tight container. A bag is
fine for short term storage. If storing in a bag,
double bagging and triple bagging helps.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com


Patrick wrote on 1/2/2008 9:38 AM:
> Thanks Wayne, I'm not mixing anything different lately (same kind of
> water, etc) and do not aerate it, it just sits in a closed pitcher until
> ready to be dripped. For some reason it's not mixing like it used to
> though. Is it possible that I have a "bad batch" of the powder (it is a
> new container of mix) or that if the water is not kept at the usual temp
> could that effect it? During the warmer months (I'm in NJ) I just let it
> sit on the kitchen counter (ambient room temp around 75, in the winter
> ambient room temp is around 70).
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
>
>
> "Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
> $n8t$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> And you are using RO water, and not aerating the lime water, right?
>>
>> I found a really good source directly from a manufacture here in
>> Florida. I used to sell it in the store. Just for the fun of it, I
>> sold it real cheap. I sold it for a $1.00 a bag. Then when people
>> would see it and ask what it was, I'd say "It's a dollar bag". Smile
>>
>> Hmm, maybe I should start buying it again, and auction it off on ebay.
>> Smile
>>
>> Wayne Sallee
>> Wayne@WayneSallee.com
>>
>>
>> Patrick wrote on 1/2/2008 8:47 AM:
>>> Happy New Year,
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a preferred kalkwasser mix (for those that use one).
>>> I'm currently using Kent Marine, but I've noticed a lot more
>>> precipitate in the mix lately, using the same proportions of water /
>>> powder. Anyone have any experience with any other brands?
>>>
>>> Thanks - Patrick
>
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Patrick



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:47 pm    Post subject: Kalkwasser Reply with quote

Happy New Year,

Does anyone have a preferred kalkwasser mix (for those that use one). I'm
currently using Kent Marine, but I've noticed a lot more precipitate in the
mix lately, using the same proportions of water / powder. Anyone have any
experience with any other brands?

Thanks - Patrick
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Patrick



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Kalkwasser Reply with quote

Thanks Kurt, I never tried using the pickling lime before. I've read about
others' good results with it, but never tried it myself, I'll give it a
shot.

Patrick



"KurtG" wrote in message $Mu4.25608@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
> Patrick wrote:
>> Does anyone have a preferred kalkwasser mix (for those that use one).
>
>
> http://mrswages.stores.yahoo.net/mrswagpiclim.html
>
> Not only is it dirt cheap, but it doesn't leave a yellow residue behind
> and it appears to last longer (no evidence, just subjective). I go for
> months between washing out my containers.
>
> I've also seen it at wal-mart in the fall, but at this time of year, you
> may need to order it.
>
> --Kurt
>
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Patrick



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Kalkwasser Reply with quote

Thanks Wayne, I'm not mixing anything different lately (same kind of water,
etc) and do not aerate it, it just sits in a closed pitcher until ready to
be dripped. For some reason it's not mixing like it used to though. Is it
possible that I have a "bad batch" of the powder (it is a new container of
mix) or that if the water is not kept at the usual temp could that effect
it? During the warmer months (I'm in NJ) I just let it sit on the kitchen
counter (ambient room temp around 75, in the winter ambient room temp is
around 70).

Patrick





"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message $n8t$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> And you are using RO water, and not aerating the lime water, right?
>
> I found a really good source directly from a manufacture here in Florida.
> I used to sell it in the store. Just for the fun of it, I sold it real
> cheap. I sold it for a $1.00 a bag. Then when people would see it and ask
> what it was, I'd say "It's a dollar bag". Smile
>
> Hmm, maybe I should start buying it again, and auction it off on ebay. Smile
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne@WayneSallee.com
>
>
> Patrick wrote on 1/2/2008 8:47 AM:
>> Happy New Year,
>>
>> Does anyone have a preferred kalkwasser mix (for those that use one). I'm
>> currently using Kent Marine, but I've noticed a lot more precipitate in
>> the mix lately, using the same proportions of water / powder. Anyone have
>> any experience with any other brands?
>>
>> Thanks - Patrick
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Patrick



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:37 am    Post subject: Re: Kalkwasser Reply with quote

Wayne, I am using RO water. The mixture sits in an airtight pitcher (one of
the old type screw-on lid lemonade pitchers) with a lid on and only gets
opened when I need to fill up my drip-dose container. It just seems that
this only started to happen after I received the new container of Kent's
product that's why I was wondering if it could be a bad batch (don't know if
that's even possible though). Thanks for any suggestions,

Patrick


"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message $ktt$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> You say that you are using the same water, but if you are using tap water,
> that changes.
>
> Dry calcium hydroxide will loose it's strength by absorbing CO2. It's best
> for long time storage, that you store it in an air tight container. A bag
> is fine for short term storage. If storing in a bag, double bagging and
> triple bagging helps.
>
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Wayne Sallee



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Kalkwasser Reply with quote

Yes, it could be a bad batch.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com


Patrick wrote on 1/2/2008 3:37 PM:
> Wayne, I am using RO water. The mixture sits in an airtight pitcher (one
> of the old type screw-on lid lemonade pitchers) with a lid on and only
> gets opened when I need to fill up my drip-dose container. It just seems
> that this only started to happen after I received the new container of
> Kent's product that's why I was wondering if it could be a bad batch
> (don't know if that's even possible though). Thanks for any suggestions,
>
> Patrick
>
>
> "Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
> $ktt$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> You say that you are using the same water, but if you are using tap
>> water, that changes.
>>
>> Dry calcium hydroxide will loose it's strength by absorbing CO2. It's
>> best for long time storage, that you store it in an air tight
>> container. A bag is fine for short term storage. If storing in a bag,
>> double bagging and triple bagging helps.
>>
>
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"Big Habeeb



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Kalkwasser looks like wankers pudding! Reply with quote

On Jan 3, 7:20 pm, KurtG wrote:
> Peter Pan wrote:
> > What is Kalkwaser used for? I have FOWLR I Knows its for Corals but what
> > does it do?
>
> You can mix it with RO/DI water for make up water.  In solution, it
> creates Calcium hydroxide, so it replenishes Ca+ ions.  As it's very
> basic, it's best to drip it in using a drip gate or using a top off
> device or mix it with the effluent from a calcium reactor.
>
> It will help your coralline grow if you have it.  It will also react
> with phosphate and participate out of solution, so it keeps the
> phosphate under control as well.  When I was dealing with hair algae, it
> really helped knock back the growth.
>
> --Kurt

Just quit wanking in the tank Kurt.................and your skimmer
will not have to work as hard...............
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Peter Pan



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:24 am    Post subject: Re: Kalkwasser Reply with quote

What is Kalkwaser used for? I have FOWLR I Knows its for Corals but what
does it do?
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KurtG



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:20 am    Post subject: Re: Kalkwasser Reply with quote

Peter Pan wrote:
> What is Kalkwaser used for? I have FOWLR I Knows its for Corals but what
> does it do?

You can mix it with RO/DI water for make up water. In solution, it
creates Calcium hydroxide, so it replenishes Ca+ ions. As it's very
basic, it's best to drip it in using a drip gate or using a top off
device or mix it with the effluent from a calcium reactor.

It will help your coralline grow if you have it. It will also react
with phosphate and participate out of solution, so it keeps the
phosphate under control as well. When I was dealing with hair algae, it
really helped knock back the growth.

--Kurt
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Peter Pan



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Kalkwasser Reply with quote

KurtG wrote:
> Peter Pan wrote:
>> What is Kalkwaser used for? I have FOWLR I Knows its for Corals but what
>> does it do?
>
> You can mix it with RO/DI water for make up water. In solution, it
> creates Calcium hydroxide, so it replenishes Ca+ ions. As it's very
> basic, it's best to drip it in using a drip gate or using a top off
> device or mix it with the effluent from a calcium reactor.
>
> It will help your coralline grow if you have it. It will also react
> with phosphate and participate out of solution, so it keeps the
> phosphate under control as well. When I was dealing with hair algae, it
> really helped knock back the growth.
>
> --Kurt
I have Coralline and its doing fine, I don't have any issues with
phosphates or algae. Is there another benefit to using it?
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KurtG



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Kalkwasser Reply with quote

Peter Pan wrote:
> I have Coralline and its doing fine, I don't have any issues with
> phosphates or algae. Is there another benefit to using it?

I like to think that it prevents cavities as I setup the siphon before
bedtime. (Yes, I'm kidding.)

--Kurt
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Peter Pan



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Kalkwasser Reply with quote

KurtG wrote:
> Peter Pan wrote:
>> I have Coralline and its doing fine, I don't have any issues with
>> phosphates or algae. Is there another benefit to using it?
>
> I like to think that it prevents cavities as I setup the siphon before
> bedtime. (Yes, I'm kidding.)
>
> --Kurt
Does it also prevent global warming? (Kidding)

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