Identify a plant

Andrey Tarasevich · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 8

Hello

I have a plant I would like identified. I tried looking for a picture of
this plant on a couple of Web sites, but I couldn't find one. The plant
has very distinctive look so, I hope, it shouldn't be too difficult to
identify it from a mere description.

The plant has elongated roundish leaves. Top surfaces of the leaves are
green, bottom surfaces are violet/purple. The leaves are visibly ruffled
and the edges seem to wrap up a bit. Every now and again the stem splits
into three stalks - the middle stalk continues to grow up, while the
side ones hold the leaves. Looks like every split is rotated 90 deg
relative to the previous one.

Does anyone know what's the name of this plant?

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Andrey Tarasevich · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 8

Ghazanfar Ghori wrote:
> Could be alternanthera reineckii.

Thanks. However, I just checked various punctures of alternanthera
reineckii on the Web, and I can't see anything with leaves that would
look similar to my plant's shape-wise (although I see lots of
similarities). Alternanthera reineckii plants have pronouncedly
elongated pointed leaves. The plant I'm talking about has rather wide
roundish leaves. Maybe they have these points, but they are not nearly
as pronounced as in alternanthera reineckii's case.

> "Andrey Tarasevich" wrote in message
> @hotmail.com...
>> Hello
>>
>> I have a plant I would like identified. I tried looking for a picture of
>> this plant on a couple of Web sites, but I couldn't find one. The plant
>> has very distinctive look so, I hope, it shouldn't be too difficult to
>> identify it from a mere description.
>>
>> The plant has elongated roundish leaves. Top surfaces of the leaves are
>> green, bottom surfaces are violet/purple. The leaves are visibly ruffled
>> and the edges seem to wrap up a bit. Every now and again the stem splits
>> into three stalks - the middle stalk continues to grow up, while the
>> side ones hold the leaves. Looks like every split is rotated 90 deg
>> relative to the previous one.
>>
>> Does anyone know what's the name of this plant?
>>

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Andrey Tarasevich

Ghazanfar Ghori · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 30

Could be alternanthera reineckii.

"Andrey Tarasevich" wrote in message@hotmail.com...
> Hello
>
> I have a plant I would like identified. I tried looking for a picture of
> this plant on a couple of Web sites, but I couldn't find one. The plant
> has very distinctive look so, I hope, it shouldn't be too difficult to
> identify it from a mere description.
>
> The plant has elongated roundish leaves. Top surfaces of the leaves are
> green, bottom surfaces are violet/purple. The leaves are visibly ruffled
> and the edges seem to wrap up a bit. Every now and again the stem splits
> into three stalks - the middle stalk continues to grow up, while the
> side ones hold the leaves. Looks like every split is rotated 90 deg
> relative to the previous one.
>
> Does anyone know what's the name of this plant?
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Andrey Tarasevich
>

Sandy · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 11

"Andrey Tarasevich" wrote in message@hotmail.com...
> Hello
>
> I have a plant I would like identified. I tried looking for a picture of
> this plant on a couple of Web sites, but I couldn't find one. The plant
> has very distinctive look so, I hope, it shouldn't be too difficult to
> identify it from a mere description.
>
> The plant has elongated roundish leaves. Top surfaces of the leaves are
> green, bottom surfaces are violet/purple. The leaves are visibly ruffled
> and the edges seem to wrap up a bit. Every now and again the stem splits
> into three stalks - the middle stalk continues to grow up, while the
> side ones hold the leaves. Looks like every split is rotated 90 deg
> relative to the previous one.
>
> Does anyone know what's the name of this plant?
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Andrey Tarasevich
>

Sounds like one of the Cryptocorynes, I have seen them do this and elongate
the main stem. If you cut off the stem and plant it do the two parts
continue growing, the top part normally and the bottom producing small
plantlets?

Some of them seem to propagate like this, the stem bends over and where it
touches the gravel it roots.

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Ghazanfar Ghori · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 30

Crypts? No crypt I know of has stems nor propagates that way.

"Sandy" wrote in message$ds5.96155711@news-text.cableinet.net...
> Sounds like one of the Cryptocorynes, I have seen them do this and
elongate
> the main stem. If you cut off the stem and plant it do the two parts
> continue growing, the top part normally and the bottom producing small
> plantlets?
>
> Some of them seem to propagate like this, the stem bends over and where it
> touches the gravel it roots.
>
> --
> Don`t Worry, Be Happy
>
> Sandy

Sandy · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 11

> "Sandy" wrote in message
> $ds5.96155711@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > Sounds like one of the Cryptocorynes, I have seen them do this and
> elongate
> > the main stem. If you cut off the stem and plant it do the two parts
> > continue growing, the top part normally and the bottom producing small
> > plantlets?
> >
> > Some of them seem to propagate like this, the stem bends over and where
it
> > touches the gravel it roots.
> >
> > --
> > Don`t Worry, Be Happy
> >
> > Sandy
>
>
"Ghazanfar Ghori" wrote in message$Pp6.53561417@twister1.starband.net...
>
> Crypts? No crypt I know of has stems nor propagates that way.
>

What you mean to say is you have never seen it happen. I have various crypts
in my tank and I have seen a few doing it this way. I am not sure which ones
but it is either wendtii, beckettii, willisii or cordata I am sorry I can't
be more specific but I have had them that long I can't remember which is
which Smile

I have to strip out excess plants every year and have given away
hundreds, in fact I gave a friend two bag loads last year and he planted a
7'x2' tank and gave the rest away to some of his friends.

I can't show you pictures ATM as the tank is just recovering it's growth
after the last thin out at the beginning of the year, although at the rate
they are growing it wont be long till I have to thin again.

There is no CO2 and I don't feed, the lighting is a 30 watt white
fluorescent and the tank is 48x18x20 deep split in two down the middle to
make two 2' tanks. The base is half an inch of potting compost covered by 3
to 4 inches of gravel and it has been set up for seven years. Fish are, left
side half a dozen zebra danios and a plec, right side two golden gouramies,
half a dozen red eye tetras and a plec. Both sides have internal canister
filters and the heating is only on when the lights are on which is 12 hours
per day, there is no heating at night.

HTH.

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spun 12 · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 10

Andrey Tarasevich wrote in message news:...
> Hello
>
> I have a plant I would like identified. I tried looking for a picture of
> this plant on a couple of Web sites, but I couldn't find one. The plant
> has very distinctive look so, I hope, it shouldn't be too difficult to
> identify it from a mere description.
>
> The plant has elongated roundish leaves. Top surfaces of the leaves are
> green, bottom surfaces are violet/purple. The leaves are visibly ruffled
> and the edges seem to wrap up a bit. Every now and again the stem splits
> into three stalks - the middle stalk continues to grow up, while the
> side ones hold the leaves. Looks like every split is rotated 90 deg
> relative to the previous one.
>
> Does anyone know what's the name of this plant?

Hey that sounds like a plant that I have the lobelias cardinalias
(cardinal)I just I guess I know Florida Driftwood has a pic thats
where I got mine

People who water garden together stay together

Ghazanfar Ghori · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 30

No I mean to say, crypts are not stem plants and do not propagate
like that.What you've witnessed are probably runners. A large variety of
crypts, including the ones you've mentioned, propagate via runners.
Glad to hear you've having luck with them though.

> What you mean to say is you have never seen it happen. I have various
crypts
> in my tank and I have seen a few doing it this way. I am not sure which
ones
> but it is either wendtii, beckettii, willisii or cordata I am sorry I
can't
> be more specific but I have had them that long I can't remember which is
> which Smile

I have to strip out excess plants every year and have given away
> hundreds, in fact I gave a friend two bag loads last year and he planted a
> 7'x2' tank and gave the rest away to some of his friends.
>
> I can't show you pictures ATM as the tank is just recovering it's growth
> after the last thin out at the beginning of the year, although at the rate
> they are growing it wont be long till I have to thin again.
>
> There is no CO2 and I don't feed, the lighting is a 30 watt white
> fluorescent and the tank is 48x18x20 deep split in two down the middle to
> make two 2' tanks. The base is half an inch of potting compost covered by
3
> to 4 inches of gravel and it has been set up for seven years. Fish are,
left
> side half a dozen zebra danios and a plec, right side two golden
gouramies,
> half a dozen red eye tetras and a plec. Both sides have internal canister
> filters and the heating is only on when the lights are on which is 12
hours
> per day, there is no heating at night.
>
> HTH.
>
> --
> Don`t Worry, Be Happy
>
> Sandy
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>
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>
>

Andrey Tarasevich · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 8

spun 12 wrote:
>> ...
>> I have a plant I would like identified. I tried looking for a picture of
>> this plant on a couple of Web sites, but I couldn't find one. The plant
>> has very distinctive look so, I hope, it shouldn't be too difficult to
>> identify it from a mere description.
>>
>> The plant has elongated roundish leaves. Top surfaces of the leaves are
>> green, bottom surfaces are violet/purple. The leaves are visibly ruffled
>> and the edges seem to wrap up a bit. Every now and again the stem splits
>> into three stalks - the middle stalk continues to grow up, while the
>> side ones hold the leaves. Looks like every split is rotated 90 deg
>> relative to the previous one.
>>
>> Does anyone know what's the name of this plant?
>
> Hey that sounds like a plant that I have the lobelias cardinalias
> (cardinal)I just I guess I know Florida Driftwood has a pic thats
> where I got mine
> ...

Yes, they have a picture of lobelias cardinalias on their Web site, but
it doesn't look similar to my plant (not a very good picture though).

What I see on the picture doesn't seem to have any purple/violet on
undersides of the leaves. My plants leaves have very pronounced deep
violet undersides.

The leaves on the picture are more elongated and wrap towards the
ground. My plant's leaves are ruffled and pretty much horizontal
(parallel to the ground), only their edges wrap upwards a little.

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Sandy · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 11

> > What you mean to say is you have never seen it happen. I have various
> crypts
> > in my tank and I have seen a few doing it this way. I am not sure which
> ones
> > but it is either wendtii, beckettii, willisii or cordata I am sorry I
>
>

"Ghazanfar Ghori" wrote in message$LM6.1413372942@twister2.starband.net...
>
> No I mean to say, crypts are not stem plants and do not propagate
> like that.What you've witnessed are probably runners. A large variety
of
> crypts, including the ones you've mentioned, propagate via runners.
> Glad to hear you've having luck with them though.
>

Nevellii, or whatever it is called now, propagates all over my tank by
runners, but this is more like a creeping rhizome.
They are the only plants I have in my tank Smile

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Sandy · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

"Sandy" wrote in message news:...
> > > What you mean to say is you have never seen it happen. I have various
> crypts
> > > in my tank and I have seen a few doing it this way. I am not sure which
> ones
> > > but it is either wendtii, beckettii, willisii or cordata I am sorry I
> >
> >
>
> "Ghazanfar Ghori" wrote in message
> $LM6.1413372942@twister2.starband.net...
> >
> > No I mean to say, crypts are not stem plants and do not propagate
> > like that.What you've witnessed are probably runners. A large variety
> of
> > crypts, including the ones you've mentioned, propagate via runners.
> > Glad to hear you've having luck with them though.
> >
>
> Nevellii, or whatever it is called now, propagates all over my tank by
> runners, but this is more like a creeping rhizome.
> They are the only plants I have in my tank Smile

>
> --
> Don`t Worry, Be Happy
>
> Sandy

Thought you might like to see some pictures of my tank, they aren't
the best of quality and the blue on some is reflection from the
window, but you can see how well the Crypts. are doing.

Here is the link.

http://www.ftscotland.co.uk/gallery/fish-tank/fishtank_thumbnails.html

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Ghazanfar Ghori · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 30

Crypts seem to be doing quite well - good job!

"Sandy" wrote in message@posting.google.com...
> "Sandy" wrote in message
news:...
> > > > What you mean to say is you have never seen it happen. I have
various
> > crypts
> > > > in my tank and I have seen a few doing it this way. I am not sure
which
> > ones
> > > > but it is either wendtii, beckettii, willisii or cordata I am sorry
I
> > >
> > >
> >
> > "Ghazanfar Ghori" wrote in message
> > $LM6.1413372942@twister2.starband.net...
> > >
> > > No I mean to say, crypts are not stem plants and do not propagate
> > > like that.What you've witnessed are probably runners. A large
variety
> > of
> > > crypts, including the ones you've mentioned, propagate via
runners.
> > > Glad to hear you've having luck with them though.
> > >
> >
> > Nevellii, or whatever it is called now, propagates all over my tank by
> > runners, but this is more like a creeping rhizome.
> > They are the only plants I have in my tank Smile

> >
> > --
> > Don`t Worry, Be Happy
> >
> > Sandy
>
>
> Thought you might like to see some pictures of my tank, they aren't
> the best of quality and the blue on some is reflection from the
> window, but you can see how well the Crypts. are doing.
>
> Here is the link.
>
> http://www.ftscotland.co.uk/gallery/fish-tank/fishtank_thumbnails.html
>
> --
> Don`t Worry, Be Happy
>
> Sandy
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~Vicki ~ · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 172

I am looking at my plant book and came across this one. Sounds like the
plant you have. Here is what the book said.

Ludwigia repens
water primrose

family : Onagracae
range : tropical n. America and c. America
appearance : Stem plant, about 20 in (50 cm) tall. Leaves decus-sate,
short-stemmed, roundish to broad-ovate; upper side olivegreen,
underside reddish to deep red/purple. Color is dependant on light, in
week light the plant remains pale. In emersed culture, small flowers
with yellow petals may form.
care : Tolerates coolish water better than overly warm, needs nutrient
rich bottom and regular additions of fertilizer after every water
change. Branches prolificly, so be sure to leave enough room at the
sides when planting.
Light : 50 w per 25 g (100L)
water : 68* - 86*F (20 -30 C)
2* - 15 * dCH; pH 5.5 - 7.5
propagation : by cuttings
placement : use in groups in the middle and along the sides.

Hope this helped.
Vicki

Andrey Tarasevich · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 8

~Vicki ~ wrote:
> I am looking at my plant book and came across this one. Sounds like the
> plant you have. Here is what the book said.
>
> Ludwigia repens
> water primrose
>
> family : Onagracae
> range : tropical n. America and c. America
> appearance : Stem plant, about 20 in (50 cm) tall. Leaves decus-sate,
> short-stemmed, roundish to broad-ovate; upper side olivegreen,
> underside reddish to deep red/purple. Color is dependant on light, in
> week light the plant remains pale. In emersed culture, small flowers
> with yellow petals may form.
> care : Tolerates coolish water better than overly warm, needs nutrient
> rich bottom and regular additions of fertilizer after every water
> change. Branches prolificly, so be sure to leave enough room at the
> sides when planting.
> Light : 50 w per 25 g (100L)
> water : 68* - 86*F (20 -30 C)
> 2* - 15 * dCH; pH 5.5 - 7.5
> propagation : by cuttings
> placement : use in groups in the middle and along the sides.
> ...

The pictures of Ludwigia repens that I can find on the net do not look
much like my plant, although in some cases I see some similarities. I
took some pictures of the plant in question. Please take a look here

http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/andreytarasevich/lst?.dir=/Plant

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~Vicki ~ · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 172

That is a beautiful plant you have there. It is not in my book tho. I
sure hope someone can help.

Vicki