Ich kills females

LoaderLady · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 83

I had 2m and 2f guppies, first in my 10g as a quarantine, and then separated
in the 5g tanks. Shortly after I moved them, I noticed what appeared to be
Ich on the biggest female. She seemed fine, but the smaller one was
hovering at the top of the tank, and not looking well. I treated with Quick
Cure, all I had; 1 drop per gallon. About an hour later, the larger female
was dead. The smaller one succumbed a few hours after that. Oddly enough,
both males are still fine. Not a mark or spot on them, and swimming around
normally. They are now in the same tank. I treated both tanks since Ich
doesn't stay on the fish continuously.

If I was Ich, I may have just not noticed it when I brought them home. I
was thinking they may have gotten it from the plants, but I wouldn't be able
to see it within a few hours, would I? I would think I just didn't notice
until I moved them ... maybe different lighting. Oh, btw, when I said the
fish were separated, I meant 1m and 1f per tank.

Could it have been something else? Looked like "grains of salt" which is
how the gf books describe it, on tail and a few on fins. Why only the
females?

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T · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 265

It depends on how the fish deals with the stress. It sure sounds like they
had ich. I think I would have tried a bit of Aquarium salt and turned up
the heater a bit ( to 82f I believe, check the FAQ posting ). However
sometimes there is no gaurentee for these actually quite delicate critters
and they may have succumbed to their illness eithier way. I have noticed
that if my tanks pH is high my guppies don't fair very well a end up sickly
and die very quickly...

Timmer...

"LoaderLady" wrote in message$ZF1.1571545@news20.bellglobal.com...
> I had 2m and 2f guppies, first in my 10g as a quarantine, and then
separated
> in the 5g tanks. Shortly after I moved them, I noticed what appeared to
be
> Ich on the biggest female. She seemed fine, but the smaller one was
> hovering at the top of the tank, and not looking well. I treated with
Quick
> Cure, all I had; 1 drop per gallon. About an hour later, the larger
female
> was dead. The smaller one succumbed a few hours after that. Oddly
enough,
> both males are still fine. Not a mark or spot on them, and swimming
around
> normally. They are now in the same tank. I treated both tanks since Ich
> doesn't stay on the fish continuously.
>
> If I was Ich, I may have just not noticed it when I brought them home. I
> was thinking they may have gotten it from the plants, but I wouldn't be
able
> to see it within a few hours, would I? I would think I just didn't notice
> until I moved them ... maybe different lighting. Oh, btw, when I said the
> fish were separated, I meant 1m and 1f per tank.
>
> Could it have been something else? Looked like "grains of salt" which is
> how the gf books describe it, on tail and a few on fins. Why only the
> females?
>
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LoaderLady · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 83

My pH is around 7.5 normally, which is great for my goldfish. Is this high
for guppies? Temp in tank is 76 or so. No heater, but is only 5g's and
stays warm. I keep an eye on it. I think the one female was weak to begin
with, but the bigger one seemed fine, other than the males were chasing her
alot. I want to get a few more females when I take these ones back - I mean
a few extra, on top of the replacements, and another male or 2 for my other
tank as well. We'll see.

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"T" wrote in message$n56.8340@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> It depends on how the fish deals with the stress. It sure sounds like they
> had ich. I think I would have tried a bit of Aquarium salt and turned up
> the heater a bit ( to 82f I believe, check the FAQ posting ). However
> sometimes there is no gaurentee for these actually quite delicate critters
> and they may have succumbed to their illness eithier way. I have noticed
> that if my tanks pH is high my guppies don't fair very well a end up
sickly
> and die very quickly...
>
> Timmer...
>
>
> "LoaderLady" wrote in message
> $ZF1.1571545@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > I had 2m and 2f guppies, first in my 10g as a quarantine, and then
> separated
> > in the 5g tanks. Shortly after I moved them, I noticed what appeared to
> be
> > Ich on the biggest female. She seemed fine, but the smaller one was
> > hovering at the top of the tank, and not looking well. I treated with
> Quick
> > Cure, all I had; 1 drop per gallon. About an hour later, the larger
> female
> > was dead. The smaller one succumbed a few hours after that. Oddly
> enough,
> > both males are still fine. Not a mark or spot on them, and swimming
> around
> > normally. They are now in the same tank. I treated both tanks since
Ich
> > doesn't stay on the fish continuously.
> >
> > If I was Ich, I may have just not noticed it when I brought them home.
I
> > was thinking they may have gotten it from the plants, but I wouldn't be
> able
> > to see it within a few hours, would I? I would think I just didn't
notice
> > until I moved them ... maybe different lighting. Oh, btw, when I said
the
> > fish were separated, I meant 1m and 1f per tank.
> >
> > Could it have been something else? Looked like "grains of salt" which
is
> > how the gf books describe it, on tail and a few on fins. Why only the
> > females?
> >
> > --
> > } Tammy {
> > Support the Canakin Project with me, by linking to your favorite store
> from
> > this address:
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> > purchase equipment, fish, etc for the Canakin Project
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> > www.tsginfo.com Enter code TD3796
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> >
> >
>
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T · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 265

They should be fine in that pH level, thats pretty close to what I have for
well water here, and mine do fine.. In fact my tetras do fine there as
well... Could have been and most likely was, stress related..

Timmer...

"LoaderLady" wrote in message$ZF1.1919321@news20.bellglobal.com...
> My pH is around 7.5 normally, which is great for my goldfish. Is this
high
> for guppies? Temp in tank is 76 or so. No heater, but is only 5g's and
> stays warm. I keep an eye on it. I think the one female was weak to
begin
> with, but the bigger one seemed fine, other than the males were chasing
her
> alot. I want to get a few more females when I take these ones back - I
mean
> a few extra, on top of the replacements, and another male or 2 for my
other
> tank as well. We'll see.
>
> --
> } Tammy {
> Support the Canakin Project with me, by linking to your favorite store
from
> this address:
> http://www.geocities.com/ontario_canakin All Proceeds will be used to
> purchase equipment, fish, etc for the Canakin Project
>
> Watkins Business Opportunity
> www.tsginfo.com Enter code TD3796
> Me and my fish Thank You!!
> "T" wrote in message
> $n56.8340@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > It depends on how the fish deals with the stress. It sure sounds like
they
> > had ich. I think I would have tried a bit of Aquarium salt and turned
up
> > the heater a bit ( to 82f I believe, check the FAQ posting ). However
> > sometimes there is no gaurentee for these actually quite delicate
critters
> > and they may have succumbed to their illness eithier way. I have
noticed
> > that if my tanks pH is high my guppies don't fair very well a end up
> sickly
> > and die very quickly...
> >
> > Timmer...
> >
> >
> > "LoaderLady" wrote in message
> > $ZF1.1571545@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > I had 2m and 2f guppies, first in my 10g as a quarantine, and then
> > separated
> > > in the 5g tanks. Shortly after I moved them, I noticed what appeared
to
> > be
> > > Ich on the biggest female. She seemed fine, but the smaller one was
> > > hovering at the top of the tank, and not looking well. I treated with
> > Quick
> > > Cure, all I had; 1 drop per gallon. About an hour later, the larger
> > female
> > > was dead. The smaller one succumbed a few hours after that. Oddly
> > enough,
> > > both males are still fine. Not a mark or spot on them, and swimming
> > around
> > > normally. They are now in the same tank. I treated both tanks since
> Ich
> > > doesn't stay on the fish continuously.
> > >
> > > If I was Ich, I may have just not noticed it when I brought them home.
> I
> > > was thinking they may have gotten it from the plants, but I wouldn't
be
> > able
> > > to see it within a few hours, would I? I would think I just didn't
> notice
> > > until I moved them ... maybe different lighting. Oh, btw, when I said
> the
> > > fish were separated, I meant 1m and 1f per tank.
> > >
> > > Could it have been something else? Looked like "grains of salt" which
> is
> > > how the gf books describe it, on tail and a few on fins. Why only the
> > > females?
> > >
> > > --
> > > } Tammy {
> > > Support the Canakin Project with me, by linking to your favorite store
> > from
> > > this address:
> > > http://www.geocities.com/ontario_canakin All Proceeds will be used to
> > > purchase equipment, fish, etc for the Canakin Project
> > >
> > > Watkins Business Opportunity
> > > www.tsginfo.com Enter code TD3796
> > > Me and my fish Thank You!!
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>