I have Proper Ph 7.0 it states it will set pH at 7.0

Richard Brandstetter · Joined: 12 Feb 2008 Posts: 2

I setting up my 50 gallon for goldfish ph has been in the low 6.s

I have Proper Ph 7.0 it states it will set pH at 7.0 .
will it work ?
has any one us it?
it states used 1 scoop of Proper Ph 7.0 per 10 gallons .there is no scoop in
jar !
any one knows the size of the scoop?

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Richard Brandstetter
brandstetter.photo@verizon.net
www.weddings-nj.com

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expat · Joined: 12 Feb 2008 Posts: 5

On Feb 11, 9:36 pm, "Richard Brandstetter"
wrote:
> I setting up my 50 gallon for goldfish ph has been in the low 6.s
>
> I have Proper Ph 7.0 it states it will set pH at 7.0 .
> will it work ?
> has any one us it?
> it states used 1 scoop of Proper Ph 7.0 per 10 gallons .there is no scoop in
> jar !
> any one knows the size of the scoop?
>
> --
> Richard Brandstetter
> brandstetter.ph...@verizon.netwww.weddings-nj.com

yes it works, but its a pain after the first one or two
waterchanges.......as you always have to be adjusting the ph with
more of it or you need to do it to the makeup water. I prefer to use
a compound such as calcium carbonate in solid form or some limestone,
that will rasie the ph to the upper side over time but not dissolve
over a short period of time. I have used crushed limestone and
limestone rocks as well as plaster of paris chunk, all of which raised
my ph. Adding these type of items like a chunk of plaster of paris it
will hold and buffer your ph at a more constant rate and its cheaper
inthe long run. AP's Proper ph does work though, and all you can do is
just add a spoonfull at a time and allow to mix and check ph.......if
you go too much somehting tells me its like half a spoonfull. Are you
sure your scooper is not in that container buried? YOU can also call
AP as they have a toll free number...........but your safe at a 1/2
spoonfull for each 10 gal to start.

As taken off AP website in regards to this product.
"Proper pH 7.0 will lower or raise the pH until 7.0 is reached. pH
will not rebound to the original level. It may require more than one
dose to adjust the pH. This is because carbonates (KH) in the water
work against pH adjustment." The part about rebound is what is gong to
happen whenyou remove water ands add water it will need to be adjusted
each and every time you do a water change. Its more of an ph adjuster
than a buffer, so this is why more solid items not fast disolving in
the alk range of the ph is more desireable thanadding supplements such
as proper ph.

Richard Brandstetter · Joined: 12 Feb 2008 Posts: 2

Thank you fore the reply .
I think I will used a plaster of Paris chunk or calcium carbonate in solid
form .
I looked for the scooper is not in that container buried. I dump it out and
put it back in no scooper.
--
Richard Brandstetter
brandstetter.photo@verizon.net
www.weddings-nj.com
"expat" wrote in message @1g2000hsl.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 11, 9:36 pm, "Richard Brandstetter"
wrote:
> I setting up my 50 gallon for goldfish ph has been in the low 6.s
>
> I have Proper Ph 7.0 it states it will set pH at 7.0 .
> will it work ?
> has any one us it?
> it states used 1 scoop of Proper Ph 7.0 per 10 gallons .there is no scoop
> in
> jar !
> any one knows the size of the scoop?
>
> --
> Richard Brandstetter
> brandstetter.ph...@verizon.netwww.weddings-nj.com

yes it works, but its a pain after the first one or two
waterchanges.......as you always have to be adjusting the ph with
more of it or you need to do it to the makeup water. I prefer to use
a compound such as calcium carbonate in solid form or some limestone,
that will rasie the ph to the upper side over time but not dissolve
over a short period of time. I have used crushed limestone and
limestone rocks as well as plaster of paris chunk, all of which raised
my ph. Adding these type of items like a chunk of plaster of paris it
will hold and buffer your ph at a more constant rate and its cheaper
inthe long run. AP's Proper ph does work though, and all you can do is
just add a spoonfull at a time and allow to mix and check ph.......if
you go too much somehting tells me its like half a spoonfull. Are you
sure your scooper is not in that container buried? YOU can also call
AP as they have a toll free number...........but your safe at a 1/2
spoonfull for each 10 gal to start.

As taken off AP website in regards to this product.
"Proper pH 7.0 will lower or raise the pH until 7.0 is reached. pH
will not rebound to the original level. It may require more than one
dose to adjust the pH. This is because carbonates (KH) in the water
work against pH adjustment." The part about rebound is what is gong to
happen whenyou remove water ands add water it will need to be adjusted
each and every time you do a water change. Its more of an ph adjuster
than a buffer, so this is why more solid items not fast disolving in
the alk range of the ph is more desireable thanadding supplements such
as proper ph.

dr-solo · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 194

yes to limestone, organic dolomitic limestone (not dolomite or quick lime) but DONT
use plaster of paris as that will do very wonky things to the pH and dont use marble.
Ingrid

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:22:47 -0800 (PST), expat wrote:
>yes it works, but its a pain after the first one or two
>waterchanges.......as you always have to be adjusting the ph with
>more of it or you need to do it to the makeup water. I prefer to use
>a compound such as calcium carbonate in solid form or some limestone,
>that will rasie the ph to the upper side over time but not dissolve
>over a short period of time. I have used crushed limestone and
>limestone rocks

dr-solo · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 194

no no no no ... dont use plaster of paris. dolomitic limestone is usually available
at garden stores. it is an off white with bits of darker stuff in it. make sure it
has no other additives. Ingrid

On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:42:44 GMT, "Richard Brandstetter"
wrote:

>Thank you fore the reply .
>I think I will used a plaster of Paris chunk

expat · Joined: 12 Feb 2008 Posts: 5

On Feb 13, 6:36 pm, dr-s...@wi.rr.com wrote:
> no no no no ... dont use plaster of paris. dolomitic limestone is usually available
> at garden stores. it is an off white with bits of darker stuff in it. make sure it
> has no other additives. Ingrid
>
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:42:44 GMT, "Richard Brandstetter"
>
>
>
> wrote:
> >Thank you fore the reply .
> >I think I will used a plaster of Paris chunk - Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

I personally prefer somehting other than plasterof paris as well, and
use limestone (crushed) or aragonite sand (usually used in SW setups)
but never had problems with plaster of paris when I used it as long as
weekly water changes were made and the tank was not overloaded with
fish...........go for the crushed limestone