I Bought Ammo Lock And A Ph Test Kit

L u · Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 49

The Ammo Lock detoxifies the ammonia it says, dosn't get rid of it. The
store didn't have Amquel.

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Tynk · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 200

On Feb 25, 1:06�am, Romanta...@webtv.net (L u) wrote:
> The Ammo Lock detoxifies the ammonia it says, dosn't get rid of it. The
> store didn't have Amquel.

Ammo lock is good too.
It doesn't replace water changes though.
So keep up on them.

L u · Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 49

I have started doing water changes every other day, while leaving some
water on the bottom. Then I add some Ammo Lock.

You know what I now use the 1.5 gal tank for? For storing and aging the
tap water. But, it dosn't hold 5 gallons, so I'll buy a big water jug.

One day soon though, I'll have to clean out the whole tank. The gravel
must be dirty, and the decorations, and the filter.
I guess I should store some of their old fish water when I do that, so
the cycle won't be totally gone.

Tynk · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 200

On Feb 26, 9:05�pm, Romanta...@webtv.net (L u) wrote:
> I have started doing water changes every other day, while leaving some
> water on the bottom. Then I add some Ammo Lock.
>
> You know what I now use the 1.5 gal tank for? For storing and aging the
> tap water. But, it dosn't hold 5 gallons, so I'll buy a big water jug.
>
> One day soon though, I'll have to clean out the whole tank. The gravel
> must be dirty, and the decorations, and the filter.
> I guess I should store some of their old fish water when I do that, so
> the cycle won't be totally gone.

Ok....you still need to learn about the cycling process. This is
obvious from what you've just said about cleaning out the whole tank
and using old tank to keep the cycle going.

Here's a quicky explanation...but I really want you to take the time
and research the cycling process, and then proper tank maintenance.
They go hand in hand.

The good bacteria that keep the tank cycled are living on every
surface inside the tank and filter.
They do NOT float about in the water. They cannot be added to a tank
by squeezing a dirty filter pad or sponge filter, into a new tank.
Adding old tank does do anything for cycling, or to keep the cyle.
Only media can do that. Media being gravel, tank decorations, tank
walls, filter media, the filter's housing, etc.
This is why you never break down a cycled tank fully (scrubbing
everything down to clean it). By doing so you are removing the
bacteria.
When you research tank maintenance you'll learn how to properly clean
the gravel.
Why are you aging water and using water conditioner?
Letting water sit out in an open container is for letting the chlorine
gas out. (chloramine does not gas out)
When you use a water conditioner, it's instant. The water is ready to
go. No need for sitting out then.

ExPat · Joined: 27 Feb 2008 Posts: 6

On Feb 27, 9:16 am, Tynk wrote:
> On Feb 26, 9:05�pm, Romanta...@webtv.net (L u) wrote:
>
> > I have started doing water changes every other day, while leaving some
> > water on the bottom. Then I add some Ammo Lock.
>
> > You know what I now use the 1.5 gal tank for? For storing and aging the
> > tap water. But, it dosn't hold 5 gallons, so I'll buy a big water jug.
>
> > One day soon though, I'll have to clean out the whole tank. The gravel
> > must be dirty, and the decorations, and the filter.
> > I guess I should store some of their old fish water when I do that, so
> > the cycle won't be totally gone.
>
> Ok....you still need to learn about the cycling process. This is
> obvious from what you've just said about cleaning out the whole tank
> and using old tank to keep the cycle going.
>
> Here's a quicky explanation...but I really want you to take the time
> and research the cycling process, and then proper tank maintenance.
> They go hand in hand.
>
> The good bacteria that keep the tank cycled are living on every
> surface inside the tank and filter.
> They do NOT float about in the water. They cannot be added to a tank
> by squeezing a dirty filter pad or sponge filter, into a new tank.
> Adding old tank does do anything for cycling, or to keep the cyle.
> Only media can do that. Media being gravel, tank decorations, tank
> walls, filter media, the filter's housing, etc.
> This is why you never break down a cycled tank fully (scrubbing
> everything down to clean it). By doing so you are removing the
> bacteria.
> When you research tank maintenance you'll learn how to properly clean
> the gravel.
> Why are you aging water and using water conditioner?
> Letting water sit out in an open container is for letting the chlorine
> gas out. (chloramine does not gas out)
> When you use a water conditioner, it's instant. The water is ready to
> go. No need for sitting out then.

Just why would you need such a product if the tank is not overstocked,
not ooverfed and the water changes are done when they are suposed to
be done. I have never bought more than one bottle of the stuff or an
item that was the same and soon found out its more of a bandaide for
folks that like to stretch things out or are careless in their fish
keeping habits. Of ocurse it would be usefull if a fish was to be
bagged up and shipped like they do with koi and some other fish going
to shows, but for the common house tank, nope not needed if the fish
keeper does what is required....Same thing for chlorine removers. NO
need if yu let the water set out for 24-48 hours prior to use.......Of
course chloramines are a different story but not every municipality
uses chloramines either...........I keep jugs and other containers of
"aged" water on hand all the time and could not lay my hands on aa
dechlor product if my life depended on it. Never needed any in over
20+ years now best I can recall.

All these other items like stress coat and amquell, and others is just
adding more DOC's to a tank that is in all reality alreadyin trouble
or you would not be needing these items to begin with..........Water
changes are much cheaper and easier and quicker than doseing tanks and
fiddling with additives.....and in the end yourt still going to need
that ever so beneficial WATER CHANGE