BAD SELLER ALERT: CORALS PLUS

Susan · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 25

Just wanted to pass along a very, very bad internet company to deal with.
To make a long story shorter I had ordered over $160.00 worth of livestock
and a light from coralsplus.com. After numerous phone calls to this place
and numerous messages left I finally get an okay that the order is ready to
ship except two items. I received an order that was horrible!!! Some of the
crabs I ordered were just shells, the "ELECTRIC" scallop I ordered was a
plain scallop, the 2 electric crabs I ordered were 2 cheap red leg crabs
instead, the neon blue goby I ordered was a engineer goby. All much cheaper
subsitutes. The coral I ordered was completely rotted!! Nothing even left of
it. Not to mention over $100.00 of things I didn't receive and was charged
for. I placed this order several weeks ago. I have made numerous phone
calls and when I finally get this older lady on the phone she tells me he
has my message and will have Brian (Owner is Brian Dowling) return my call
today. I've been told this same thing several times. Also, I get no return
on emails. After looking into the BBB online I find this company has had
many unresolved complaints and appears to be unreputable Sad

I just didn't
want anyone else to make the same stupid mistake I did. The old saying is
you live and learn!! Anyways, I'm pursing action through the credit card
company, Better Business Burea and IC3 (Internet Crime Complaint Center).
IC3 which is in partnership with the FBI appears to investigate the
complaint and send the info to the appropiate law officials. Again, just
wanted to pass along this info so someone else doesn't do the same dumb
thing I did. Sorry for the long letter Smile

Susan

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George Patterson · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 241

Susan wrote:
> Sorry for the long letter Smile

No need for you to be. Thanks for all the trouble you're taking. Many people
would just write off the loss and not even bother to warn anyone else.

George Patterson
Worry doesn't improve the future; it just ruins the present.

Wayne Sallee · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 526

That's the nice thing about the internet, is that
when a company is bad, you can report them on the
internet, and then when you are looking at buying
from a company, you can search the internet to see
what other people are saying about them.

I would recommend that you immediately charge your
cc back on the grounds that they did not ship to you
the things that you ordered, and that the few things
that they did ship were not what you ordered, and
were of poor quality, and that they have not made
any attempt to fix the situation.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com

Susan wrote on 1/16/2008 9:01 PM:
> Just wanted to pass along a very, very bad internet company to deal with.
> To make a long story shorter I had ordered over $160.00 worth of livestock
> and a light from coralsplus.com. After numerous phone calls to this place
> and numerous messages left I finally get an okay that the order is ready to
> ship except two items. I received an order that was horrible!!! Some of the
> crabs I ordered were just shells, the "ELECTRIC" scallop I ordered was a
> plain scallop, the 2 electric crabs I ordered were 2 cheap red leg crabs
> instead, the neon blue goby I ordered was a engineer goby. All much cheaper
> subsitutes. The coral I ordered was completely rotted!! Nothing even left of
> it. Not to mention over $100.00 of things I didn't receive and was charged
> for. I placed this order several weeks ago. I have made numerous phone
> calls and when I finally get this older lady on the phone she tells me he
> has my message and will have Brian (Owner is Brian Dowling) return my call
> today. I've been told this same thing several times. Also, I get no return
> on emails. After looking into the BBB online I find this company has had
> many unresolved complaints and appears to be unreputable Sad

I just didn't
> want anyone else to make the same stupid mistake I did. The old saying is
> you live and learn!! Anyways, I'm pursing action through the credit card
> company, Better Business Burea and IC3 (Internet Crime Complaint Center).
> IC3 which is in partnership with the FBI appears to investigate the
> complaint and send the info to the appropiate law officials. Again, just
> wanted to pass along this info so someone else doesn't do the same dumb
> thing I did. Sorry for the long letter Smile

>
> Susan Smile

>
>

Susan · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 25

Thanks guys. I've already started the process of doing a charge back. I
used a credit card/debit so I'm not sure if the process is all the same as
using a plain credit card. I feel like those people on television you see
that get "swindled" out of money and your thinking wow I wouldn't let that
happen to me. Just wish I would have done a BBB check on him before hand.

Susan Smile

"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message $avg$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> That's the nice thing about the internet, is that when a company is bad,
> you can report them on the internet, and then when you are looking at
> buying from a company, you can search the internet to see what other
> people are saying about them.
>
> I would recommend that you immediately charge your cc back on the grounds
> that they did not ship to you the things that you ordered, and that the
> few things that they did ship were not what you ordered, and were of poor
> quality, and that they have not made any attempt to fix the situation.
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne@WayneSallee.com
>
>
> Susan wrote on 1/16/2008 9:01 PM:
>> Just wanted to pass along a very, very bad internet company to deal with.
>> To make a long story shorter I had ordered over $160.00 worth of
>> livestock and a light from coralsplus.com. After numerous phone calls to
>> this place and numerous messages left I finally get an okay that the
>> order is ready to ship except two items. I received an order that was
>> horrible!!! Some of the crabs I ordered were just shells, the "ELECTRIC"
>> scallop I ordered was a plain scallop, the 2 electric crabs I ordered
>> were 2 cheap red leg crabs instead, the neon blue goby I ordered was a
>> engineer goby. All much cheaper subsitutes. The coral I ordered was
>> completely rotted!! Nothing even left of it. Not to mention over $100.00
>> of things I didn't receive and was charged for. I placed this order
>> several weeks ago. I have made numerous phone calls and when I finally
>> get this older lady on the phone she tells me he has my message and will
>> have Brian (Owner is Brian Dowling) return my call today. I've been told
>> this same thing several times. Also, I get no return on emails. After
>> looking into the BBB online I find this company has had many unresolved
>> complaints and appears to be unreputable Sad

I just didn't want anyone
>> else to make the same stupid mistake I did. The old saying is you live
>> and learn!! Anyways, I'm pursing action through the credit card company,
>> Better Business Burea and IC3 (Internet Crime Complaint Center). IC3
>> which is in partnership with the FBI appears to investigate the complaint
>> and send the info to the appropiate law officials. Again, just wanted to
>> pass along this info so someone else doesn't do the same dumb thing I
>> did. Sorry for the long letter Smile

>>
>> Susan Smile

Moira · Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 2

On Jan 17, 11:53 am, "Susan" wrote:
> Thanks guys. I've already started the process of doing a charge back. I
> used a credit card/debit so I'm not sure if the process is all the same as
> using a plain credit card. I feel like those people on television you see
> that get "swindled" out of money and your thinking wow I wouldn't let that
> happen to me. Just wish I would have done a BBB check on him before hand.
>
> Susan Smile

"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
>
> $avg$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>
>
>
> > That's the nice thing about the internet, is that when a company is bad,
> > you can report them on the internet, and then when you are looking at
> > buying from a company, you can search the internet to see what other
> > people are saying about them.
>
> > I would recommend that you immediately charge your cc back on the grounds
> > that they did not ship to you the things that you ordered, and that the
> > few things that they did ship were not what you ordered, and were of poor
> > quality, and that they have not made any attempt to fix the situation.
>
> > Wayne Sallee
> > Wa...@WayneSallee.com
>
> > Susan wrote on 1/16/2008 9:01 PM:
> >> Just wanted to pass along a very, very bad internet company to deal with.
> >> To make a long story shorter I had ordered over $160.00 worth of
> >> livestock and a light from coralsplus.com. After numerous phone calls to
> >> this place and numerous messages left I finally get an okay that the
> >> order is ready to ship except two items. I received an order that was
> >> horrible!!! Some of the crabs I ordered were just shells, the "ELECTRIC"
> >> scallop I ordered was a plain scallop, the 2 electric crabs I ordered
> >> were 2 cheap red leg crabs instead, the neon blue goby I ordered was a
> >> engineer goby. All much cheaper subsitutes. The coral I ordered was
> >> completely rotted!! Nothing even left of it. Not to mention over $100.00
> >> of things I didn't receive and was charged for. I placed this order
> >> several weeks ago. I have made numerous phone calls and when I finally
> >> get this older lady on the phone she tells me he has my message and will
> >> have Brian (Owner is Brian Dowling) return my call today. I've been told
> >> this same thing several times. Also, I get no return on emails. After
> >> looking into the BBB online I find this company has had many unresolved
> >> complaints and appears to be unreputable Sad

I just didn't want anyone
> >> else to make the same stupid mistake I did. The old saying is you live
> >> and learn!! Anyways, I'm pursing action through the credit card company,
> >> Better Business Burea and IC3 (Internet Crime Complaint Center). IC3
> >> which is in partnership with the FBI appears to investigate the complaint
> >> and send the info to the appropiate law officials. Again, just wanted to
> >> pass along this info so someone else doesn't do the same dumb thing I
> >> did. Sorry for the long letter Smile

>
> >> Susan Smile

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Who is this KurtG and why does he have to use this really bad
language. I have not visited this site for a long time and this is
one of the reasons. The other reason is often the subject appears to
be some personal stuff that only a few people are chatting
about....like wow - I'm going on vacation,,,see ya later susan, tom,
bob etc...Is it really necessary to throw all that "do you swallow or
spit" into what appears to be a nice discussion about a company that
maybe we should watch out for....

"Big Habeeb · Joined: 10 Dec 2007 Posts: 17

Moira wrote:
> On Jan 17, 11:53 am, "Susan" wrote:
>> Thanks guys. I've already started the process of doing a charge back. I
>> used a credit card/debit so I'm not sure if the process is all the same as
>> using a plain credit card. I feel like those people on television you see
>> that get "swindled" out of money and your thinking wow I wouldn't let that
>> happen to me. Just wish I would have done a BBB check on him before hand.
>>
>> Susan Smile

"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
>>
>> $avg$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>
>>
>>
>>> That's the nice thing about the internet, is that when a company is bad,
>>> you can report them on the internet, and then when you are looking at
>>> buying from a company, you can search the internet to see what other
>>> people are saying about them.
>>> I would recommend that you immediately charge your cc back on the grounds
>>> that they did not ship to you the things that you ordered, and that the
>>> few things that they did ship were not what you ordered, and were of poor
>>> quality, and that they have not made any attempt to fix the situation.
>>> Wayne Sallee
>>> Wa...@WayneSallee.com
>>> Susan wrote on 1/16/2008 9:01 PM:
>>>> Just wanted to pass along a very, very bad internet company to deal with.
>>>> To make a long story shorter I had ordered over $160.00 worth of
>>>> livestock and a light from coralsplus.com. After numerous phone calls to
>>>> this place and numerous messages left I finally get an okay that the
>>>> order is ready to ship except two items. I received an order that was
>>>> horrible!!! Some of the crabs I ordered were just shells, the "ELECTRIC"
>>>> scallop I ordered was a plain scallop, the 2 electric crabs I ordered
>>>> were 2 cheap red leg crabs instead, the neon blue goby I ordered was a
>>>> engineer goby. All much cheaper subsitutes. The coral I ordered was
>>>> completely rotted!! Nothing even left of it. Not to mention over $100.00
>>>> of things I didn't receive and was charged for. I placed this order
>>>> several weeks ago. I have made numerous phone calls and when I finally
>>>> get this older lady on the phone she tells me he has my message and will
>>>> have Brian (Owner is Brian Dowling) return my call today. I've been told
>>>> this same thing several times. Also, I get no return on emails. After
>>>> looking into the BBB online I find this company has had many unresolved
>>>> complaints and appears to be unreputable Sad

I just didn't want anyone
>>>> else to make the same stupid mistake I did. The old saying is you live
>>>> and learn!! Anyways, I'm pursing action through the credit card company,
>>>> Better Business Burea and IC3 (Internet Crime Complaint Center). IC3
>>>> which is in partnership with the FBI appears to investigate the complaint
>>>> and send the info to the appropiate law officials. Again, just wanted to
>>>> pass along this info so someone else doesn't do the same dumb thing I
>>>> did. Sorry for the long letter Smile

>>>> Susan Smile

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>
> Who is this KurtG and why does he have to use this really bad
> language. I have not visited this site for a long time and this is
> one of the reasons. The other reason is often the subject appears to
> be some personal stuff that only a few people are chatting
> about....like wow - I'm going on vacation,,,see ya later susan, tom,
> bob etc...Is it really necessary to throw all that "do you swallow or
> spit" into what appears to be a nice discussion about a company that
> maybe we should watch out for....
Moira,
Be sure to look at email addresses - most of the foul language posts are
by our resident trolls, spoofing our nicknames.

--
Big Habeeb (a.k.a. Mitch)
I love woot.com and techbargains.com

George Patterson · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 241

Moira wrote:

> Who is this KurtG and why does he have to use this really bad
> language.

The real KurtG is Kurt Gueunther, and he does not use foul language in this
forum. There's an idiot posting to this group who changes his "From" address to
impersonate other posters. That's the author of that post. Checking the full
header will allow you to tell which posts are genuine.

If you're using Mozilla, some of us can help you set up filters to screen this
clown out.

George Patterson
Worry doesn't improve the future; it just ruins the present.

Moira · Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 2

On Jan 22, 7:50 am, Wayne Sallee wrote:
> And today is going to be a really nice day in
> Florida, and tomorrow even nicer.
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wa...@WayneSallee.com
>
> KurtG wrote on 1/22/2008 9:35 AM:
>
>
>
> > George Patterson wrote:
> >> The real KurtG is Kurt Gueunther, and he does not use foul language in
> >> this forum.
>
> > Thanks for the assist George. Good weekend but I woke up to -25 degree
> > weather on Sunday. There is a reason that I'm in Florida.
>
> > --Kurt- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

THanks for all your input..Perhaps I'll visit more often and just
ignore the trolls. I had always thought that if you used really bad
language etc..you get booted off the site...but perhaps that only
happens on my childrens' sites they visit.

KurtG · Joined: 10 Dec 2007 Posts: 57

Moira wrote:
> Who is this KurtG and why does he have to use this really bad
> language.

That's just our friendly troll. Just filter them out and create a white
list.

There are some moderated forums around. I'm on
http://www.reefcentral.org/ as well.

--Kurt

KurtG · Joined: 10 Dec 2007 Posts: 57

George Patterson wrote:
> The real KurtG is Kurt Gueunther, and he does not use foul language in
> this forum.

Thanks for the assist George. Good weekend but I woke up to -25 degree
weather on Sunday. There is a reason that I'm in Florida.

--Kurt

Wayne Sallee · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 526

And today is going to be a really nice day in
Florida, and tomorrow even nicer.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com

KurtG wrote on 1/22/2008 9:35 AM:
> George Patterson wrote:
>> The real KurtG is Kurt Gueunther, and he does not use foul language in
>> this forum.
>
> Thanks for the assist George. Good weekend but I woke up to -25 degree
> weather on Sunday. There is a reason that I'm in Florida.
>
> --Kurt

KurtG · Joined: 10 Dec 2007 Posts: 57

Moira wrote:
> THanks for all your input..Perhaps I'll visit more often and just
> ignore the trolls. I had always thought that if you used really bad
> language etc..you get booted off the site...but perhaps that only
> happens on my childrens' sites they visit.

Usenet isn't moderated, and it takes a lot to get booted and even then
it's easy to change aliases and come right back.

--Kurt

Wayne Sallee · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 526

You will find this newsgroup to be much more useful
if you use a newsgroup reader. Most e-mail software
will work also as newsgroup readers. With a
newsgroup reader, you can filter out the trash posts.

And the newsgroups are easier reading in a newsgroup
reader.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com

Moira wrote on 1/22/2008 11:38 AM:
> THanks for all your input..Perhaps I'll visit more often and just
> ignore the trolls. I had always thought that if you used really bad
> language etc..you get booted off the site...but perhaps that only
> happens on my childrens' sites they visit.

KurtG · Joined: 10 Dec 2007 Posts: 57

Wayne Sallee wrote:
> You will find this newsgroup to be much more useful if you use a
> newsgroup reader. Most e-mail software will work also as newsgroup
> readers. With a newsgroup reader, you can filter out the trash posts.

I use this one:
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/

Outlook is a little anemic when it comes to filters.

--Kurt

Susan · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 25

Can't wait to get away from the below zero wind chill and head to Florida
next month for a short vacation!!

Susan Smile

"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message $274$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> And today is going to be a really nice day in Florida, and tomorrow even
> nicer.
>
> Wayne Sallee
> Wayne@WayneSallee.com
>
>
> KurtG wrote on 1/22/2008 9:35 AM:
>> George Patterson wrote:
>>> The real KurtG is Kurt Gueunther, and he does not use foul language in
>>> this forum.
>>
>> Thanks for the assist George. Good weekend but I woke up to -25 degree
>> weather on Sunday. There is a reason that I'm in Florida.
>>
>> --Kurt